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I don't know, what were they hospitalized for? if my wife or child were hospitalized for a suicidal or homicidal thoughts, I would take them out of the house myself without having to be asked, unfortunately there's alot of irresponsible gun owners out there that probably wouldn't. Maybe if the guy had taken the initiative on his own to remove them from the house and store at a friend or relatives house the police wouldn't have had to take them........it would be helpful to know if they take into account the seriousness or nature of the psych problem.

so if your neighbor was a full blown psycho, you would have no problem with guns being in the house? and most people who have mental illness do not seek it on their own, it's usually a third party that takes the initiative to get them help...........if you've ever dealt with the mentally ill, the majority of them don't think there's anything wrong with them.

taking guns away from people who aren't legally allowed to own them sounds like a good idea to me........I can't say I'd want to have a mentally unstable neighbor in possession of a firearm. Leave the law abiding, mentally stable alone and go after the ones who are deemed unfit to own guns.

steel shot would be my last choice for turkey.....actually I wouldn't even consider it an option.

that's already one of the biggest changes I've sen to out hunting land in the 30 or so years I've been hunting it..no longer very friendly to wildlife that we hunt due to the maturing process.

I see no problem with men commenting on this topic if it would have stuck to the original post about whether or not the gov't should be able to enact laws regarding abortion.

kinda like the death penalty argument that it's not a deterrent on crime, maybe not, but it sure lessens the burden on the rest of society to support them.

I have to agree on the out of control reproduction rate......I wonder how many people have had the pleasure of dealing with the citizens who give birth at an alarming rate simply because they don't give a sh*t, and why should they? the tax payer's will pay to raise them. Then their children turn around and continue the cycle. I hate to say it, but they should have a system where they offer cash vouchers at the abortion clinic to encourage alot of these people.........the only thing worse than an abortion is a child who is unloved, abused and unwanted and dragged through the system his/her entire life.

what about the "morning after pill", should that be allowed or once its done its done? does life start at the moment of conception or a couple weeks later?

good point, no comparison between a wanted and unwanted child...but, that's not to say we should downplay the risks of child birth.... which, by the way, has nothing to do with this topic.

for any man to have the balls to put themselves in the same emotional or physical boat as the woman who actually has to carry the child and give birth is B.S......not the same emotion or bond formed between the two by any stretch of the imagination.

That's very true, I bought on L.I. in 1999 for about 120g's, the value skyrocketed to almost 400g's and now it's back down to 220g's......I would never have paid 400g's for what I have, and now many people owe more on their houses then they are worth down here. I have family who bought in Rochester 20 years ago and their house's are worth pretty much now as they were then.........

there are so many variables in these situations that you can't just have a blanket law covering all of them, and that's the original question that was asked, do you think it's up to a gov't entity to dictate what's legal and what isn't? the majority of the time, once you have a child with another person, you have ties and legal responsibilities to that person for the rest of your life or at least until the child is of adulthood......my take on it, is if you remove the child before it's born you remove the emotional aspect of dealing with a living person and it's easier to move on. That being said, I have no problem with abortion for whatever reason the people affected by it choose.

there's a few on gunbroker.com, asking prices seem to vary from around $500-$5000......looks like some are rarer than others.

yeah, but just think of the size of the bucks that will be running around some areas in 50 years thanks to the implementation of Antler Restrictions.............

I find the first one way less offensive, could you imagine being forced to birth that child and have to look at it each day and be reminded of what happened? a never ending nightmare if you ask me.

it should be mandatory in some situations......and the gov't should offer cash payouts for sterilization of some people, voluntary of course.......and as far as putting them up for adoption for someone else to support, guess what? we're all already paying to raise them...kinda hard to be sympathetic towards people who keep producing babies simply because they don't give a sh*t,

damn city folk.....must be scared of dem der country folks with their bad teeths and all dat dag gum stuff.

saw him on the news, sounded like the kind of person that would act like an ahole just to annoy his neighbors....good for him.

they must be collecting a fortune from the Pittman-Robertson tax.

The reason "assault" weapons draw so much attention when they are used is usually because of the mass casualties..........much like a plane crash. Planes are a much safer mode of transportation than automobile travel, single car crashes count for hundreds more deaths than airplanes, but travelling by airplane puts fear into many people......they both generate an unwarranted fear in the general public

I don't know how specifically they break down the crime info, but I'm going to say if you look at the statistics of the majority of the mass shootings and murders where people go off the deep end and kill their relatives, coworkers, etc., you'll find that these were committed using legally owned guns.........as far as your "street crimes" go, the most are committed with illegal guns, and believe it or not alot of crimes are committed using fake guns.

yes, I remembered the story from a few years back and an internet search confirmed it...happened in 2008.

I'm not surprised, a couple of years ago they accidentally shipped some guns that were loaded with live ammo.

good point.