Five Seasons

I am not on the drive hater side of this, i think that's a small group. I will state that groups that do nothing but drive, and drive constantly (in the southern zone anyhow), would get my undies all bunchy.

this was from 2014. she still looks good though. just a smaller belly

this is where I have been. The success with a doe was sort of a bummer from the standpoint that he's tasted some victory. i disagree. blood wins ususally. Offered to buy the land many times. guy is retired and while not loaded doesn't seem to care about the money. my hope too is that newly married he will knock the daughter up and lose his free time. haha.

sorry, the guy with the 30 prime acres. the 10 acres we have permission for (although none of the other neighbors have asked and use it to). Yes just a 30 year neighbor handshake kind of thing. your first point was what I thought we had going. your second point is the scary part. yeah and I'm not really looking for that, and I've talked to him about his approach. The lane he walks in on has harvested some good deer. the whole woods is pretty human free but the neighbor mows this trail and the deer use it... or used to. He really doesn't have much of a choice. 30 acres. but losing the 10 someday will suck too. My dad is still mad at my mom for not "letting him" buy the whole thing back when they were starting out haha. yep. i told my dad that same thing. daddy's going to listen to his little girl every time. it's good advice to the point where it's the primmest of all the spots on the block though haha. but certainty not looking at cutting off the nose to spite the face.

haha we have and have had 2 very large ones. I think they were in use somewhere else in this cluster. This was the first deer we did at this house so it wasn't really LEAN manufacturing yet.

So you 2 don't feel alone. This is an 8 month pregnant wife helping cutup deer. I feel like that adds points

an he soap doesn't mean it can't be used in a regular washer, it's vice versa that you want to avoid. Take it from a former appliance salesaman, you just need to use a little more if you're using an older style washer. The HE soaps are designed to be used with less water. More water requires more soap.

I never thought I would be writing one of these, but here it goes. Warning it's long because I believe details are important. My father owns about 15 acres in 8F. His property boarders that of another neighbor to the west with ~10 acres of good bedding area and he doesn't hunt. We have no stands there but use it to travel. The neighbor to the west of him owns 30 acres of great deer hunting property. My father has leased this land for 30 years. He pays a small amount of money each year as good faith, but has also posted the property, kicked out trespassers and brings good expensive slim jims and sausage to the neighbor. The neighbor grows some barely and stuff and is always happy for us to be taking deer off the land. Earlier this summer my dad received a phone call from a guy in his late 20's early 30's. He had just married the neighbors daughter. He wanted my dad to show him all the good spots to hunt and where his stands were. My dad is retired and a diehard bowhunter. Doesn't care much about gun at all. He's a bit of an elitist (you now know where I get it from) and somewhat roughly told the guy no way. He works his ass off and this small piece of land really can't stand pressure. My dad takes nice mature bucks every year. And he does work hard on the land. I'm a weekend warrior with vacation sprinkled in and also don't care a lot about gun season, however have been hitting it hard in search of some freezer meat this year. Usually I take a deer early in 7J, but weather and kids have made it harder to travel recently. We've only ever taken 2 deer with a gun off this land in 8F and one was a freezer doe last year. Well I'm setup in one of our good doe stands the afternoon before thanksgiving and this guy comes walking from the neighbors house down the trail with about an hour of legal light left. He spots me and I wave. He comes over and asks if I was my dad, I say no and that I'm his son. He asks if I will be moving from the stand and I said no. He then headed away and I knew my hunt was probably ruined but thought maybe he might bump something to me. He did. 15 turkeys. He's walking out of the woods at dusk and bust 2 small deer that had come in from the other direction. I had been watching them, but they were yearling does. So fast forward to opening day weekend. His wife contacts me through facebook asking for my number to share with her new husband. I send it and we text back and forth. I generally try and nicely tell him that the area is small and is extremely pressured during gun season from all sides (not a lie). That if he lets me know when he will be out, then I can hunt other stands. Only about 2 of 7 are really affected by him, although another 2 are affected by the neighbors to the north, but that's a different story. Understandably I'm not thrilled about the new pressure, but it is what it is. He's asking if we do drives, if we have radios etc. I feel like i'm playing this all by the book. Friendly, but not eager to be buddy, buddy. Educating while not being a dick etc. So he hunts Sunday and I don't. I hear of no luck for him. Now the next weekend he tells me he plans to hunt Sunday again. I say ok and pick a stand that might benefit from him walking around (he's a ground hunter). It doesn't and he shoots one of the fawn does. We have him on cam carrying the deer out on his back. No harm really. Good for him. We text, I tell him congrats etc. I assume he's done hunting or not going out this weekend because I don't hear anything. I honestly feel like it's on him to contact me right? Well Saturday I don't see anything and Sunday morning i pick the same stand where we crossed paths before with hopes of shooting a nice doe. Well I get in around 6:30 and don't have any action until 8am when he comes strolling down the lane. He waves and I wave, but I'm honestly pissed. 6 other stands I could have hunted and he also comes in prime time. To top it off he stops 30 yards down the lane behind me and sits. While obscured by branches he's within bow range of me and I can see him for Christs sake. Not only is he cutting me completely off but it's borderline dangerous. He then text me that he's going to setup here and that "i can probably see his orange". I don't text back and I'm f'n losing it internally. I sit another 10 minutes debating on what to do and also hoping maybe his clowning will kick a deer around him where I can get a shot. It doesn't. I decide to packup my gear and move. I make my way to another stand, but I don't use the approach trail as it might push deer his way. I make a racket taking the direct approach and spend the next 90 minutes heated in the stand and not enjoying the beautiful morning. I end up getting down a little before 10 as it's just not in me. I'm not in my happy hunting place. So that's the story. I vent to my dad when i get in and he drops a bomb that this kid might be a turkey hunter too. Which isn't a big deal as the leased property doesn't hold turkey well, but I'm not sure I'm happy to share ours if it comes up. So the risk in all this is bow season. The holy grail of the property and a generally low pressure awesome time to hunt. We don't know if he plans to bow hunt, but everything is on the table. He holds the relationship trump card with the neighbor despite the 30 year relationship with my father. Any negative moves with turkey or anything else could ruin bow if it's not already ruined. I still haven't heard from him or reached out to him since yesterday morning. I do strongly feel like he made an absolute dick move and if anyone disagrees I'd like to here why. No communication, then posting up 30 yards from me? My dad suggests that I let him know that he messed me up good and I believe I tend to agree, with a polite reminder that we were going to communicate. Although both of us get a sense there's some arrogance with him, but that remains to be seen. We're told his family has land that he hunts too, so it's not like this is his only place to hunt. Yes it's not lost on me that this is clown hunter karma for me ... but I did marry into a family too where the grandpa is a farmer. Told my dad and I that we could hunt it. Found out his farm hand hunted it and didn't pursue it. Right thing to do.

I feel like after looking at that picture that there are certainly troll like creatures lurking in the shadows or those trees from lord of the rings on that path ready to grab me up. I would turn back around and go back to bed

interesting thought. $40 for a gun isn't a deal breaker. I am more or less concerned with spending $150 for a good slicer if ground is just as good or better. I do have a dehydrater from the 90's that seems to still work well.

don't be silly. I think I misread your post. You're referencing Santa when you said he can't deliver. i get it now.

I too think your girl has beautiful eyes Rob.

from this i gather you didn't read the link i posted about chest girth and why it's retarded to use. I guess I'm an idiot engineer who relies on science and tools like scales.

literal lol at work on this one!

in the neck while moving. he "led" her.

I saw 2 deer friday night but no shots. no deer saturday or sunday morning. However I blame pressure and other circumstances more than the moon. I also believe there is no "kiss of death" or "guaranteed kill" when it comes to moons, seasons, times and weather. You can only kill them if you're out there.

Now that’s a dishonest scale [emoji23] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Guy says he wish he shot a button buck because his foot got wet dragging a doe. Can’t make this up Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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No that is a donkey, live too. Dude is notorious for some exaggerations. Not the place, like I said congrats. But get a hanging scale for $30 and we will stop giving you a hard time [emoji854] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Knows his success by percentages. You’re a trip, but congrats none the less. FYI, a 150lb doe is BIG. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You’re the dick here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Admittedly jealous. My plan was to double up on opening day. And here I am with tags still [emoji23] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

More neighbor fun today. Too upset to really get into it. Maybe I’ll post the story later Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Legally you’re doing nothing wrong. Etiquette wise I find it very odd. And I’ve hunted plenty of state land. You never know when someone will show up. See another hunter and switch your plans. Safety risks with others stands too Just my .02. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk