virgil

Holy geez, you are boring. My posts on this thread are not my opinion. They are fact. I don't claim to be an expert on too many things. But, this is a subject on which I do have professional expertise. If the truth on this subject does not jive with your conspiracy illusions or Bubba's misperceptions, that's not my concern. My concern was simply to avoid having people read this thread and form opinions based on misinformation.

We're still on this? There never was a mandate. Bubba was mistaken. That was the point I was trying to make. I just didn't want people to assume that because Bubba is a healthcare practitioner, that his statements were accurate. He was confusing his employer's policy with a mandate. If a doctor's office is asking these questions, it is because it is their office policy, not a government mandate.

Send a letter to the supeintendant summarizing your telephone conversation with him and tell him that you look forward to hearing back from him with the results of his investigation.

Bubba, do you still believe that practitioners are required to ask these questions?

Culver, that's a good question. Healthcare professionals are subject to mandatory reporting if they suspect abuse or neglect. Not sure of specific guidelines as they related to your question. I would think that a practitioner could feel that there is possible 'neglect' in your example.

Papist, look up the definition of 'opinion'. There is no statistic that will answer the question as to why someone else does whatever they do. I answered your question. But, you don't seem capable of understanding the answer. As I said, I am not a doctor who asks those questions. If I were, I could tell you why I do it. You're trying so hard to convince yourself that you're winning this argument. But, you're really just being argumentative.

If a doc asks the question, you have many options. You can answer, 'yes, i do have guns in the house, but they are safely stored, thank you'. You can simply say, 'no, i don't have any guns in the house'. Or, you can find another doc. And, by the way, not all docs ask these questions. If you look into what is involved in physician 'reporting' regarding these issues, you'd see that a doctor cannot simply 'report' someone based on his/her own political agenda.

The basis for my opinion as to why they ask the question? I believe that they ask the question because they feel that guns, when not stored properly, are a legitimate safety risk. I can only state my opinion as to why they ask. To get the answer that you seem to be looking for, you'd need to ask a doctor who actually asks his/her patients these questions. I am not one of those doctors.

Papist, you give yourself too much credit. Phade made a point, you never did. My statements never claimed that there were any statistics of one household danger versus another. I simply stated that some doctors view guns as more dangerous that other potential hazards, such as the curtains that you are so concerned about. And, again, I never claimed that docs did not have an agenda. The first time that subject was raised was in Phade's post. And again, if you are offended by your perception of a doctor's 'agenda' for asking a gun-related question, find another doctor.

Nice try Papist. My tune hasn't changed. I never said that the doctors asking the question didn't have 'an agenda'. I said that they ask the question because they feel there is legitimate reason for concern. And, the more important point was that doctors are not mandated to ask the question, as Bubba insists.

It's not the doctors who are ignorant and uninformed. What point are you trying to make? Some doctors ask the question because they think it is an important issue where they can provide helpful information. If the point is, as Phade states (finally someone making an intelligent argument), that doctors in general are not pro-gun, that's probably accurate. But, they have every right to ask. Again, if the question offends you so deeply, find another doctor and quit being so sensitive.

The answer to your silly question is that doctors see guns as more dangerous than curtains.

Papist, I'll type slowly so you can hopefully understand. Some doctors are asking the gun-related questions because they choose to. They are not required to ask those questions and you are not required to answer them. If the question offends you so badly, switch doctors. Or better yet, go ahead and ask them all your brilliant questions about curtains and fish ponds.

Bubba, you're exhausting because you seem to be more interested in believing what you want to believe than in knowing the truth. Yes, you are required to 'follow the regs', meaning you need to provide HIPAA information to your patients. Where you are wrong is in your insistance that you are required by law to ask the gun-related questions. Those questions are on your office's forms because that is the policy of the office where you work, not because there is any law that requires it.

Bubba, why do you refuse to actually do a little research. You claim that it's a part of your job. What do you mean by that? If your boss or your office decided to include these questions as of last January, that was their choice. It was not a mandate, no matter how badly you want to believe it was.

Ok, Jeremy. Find one of those cases and we can discuss it.

Bubba, what are you talking about now? I said I looked something up?

Machinist, I think I just answered your questions in a post to Bubba. Doctors are not required to ask about guns. That is a myth. And, your private health information cannot be shared without your permission.

I did answer your question. And, my job requires me to be up on these things as well.

The obamacare executive order states that doctors MAY ask these questions. It does not mandate that they ask them. This is another myth sold to you by Rush Limbaugh. Either way, if your doctor chooses to ask, you can decline to answer.

Bubba, I didn't see your first post. You are still mistaken.

Machinist, my post wasn't directed to you. It was meant for Papist. Either way, they have every right to ask. The question doesn't put you into any category. It's meant to be an opportunity for a doctor to provide information, if needed, about safety.

Bubba, you couldn't be more wrong about HIPAA. It's actually the opposite of what you implied. Look it up.

The cars question is stupid. They don't ask about cars because there are all sorts of laws that relate to safety- seat belts, child seats, etc. The power tools question is reasonable- first reasonable question or statement I've seen from you. My guess is the answer would be related to the mortality of gun accidents versus power tool accidents. The American Academy of Pediatrics is definitely a left leaning group. They don't hide that fact. But, some of you guys are just too sensitive about anyone asking any questions about your guns. A pediatrician asking a question is not a threat to your rights. Give an intelligent answer and move on. If the doctor politicizes the issue, then tell her off.

Are you opposed to seatbelt laws? Or, I should probably ask- would you be opposed to them if they had been originally proposed by Obama?