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During muzzleloader season only one deer (either sex) is allowed? Am I reading this correctly? Thxs FT

No more than 2 1/2...that's a good one IMO.

Sweet...congrats.

Cannonsville (NYC Watershed).

Exactly, I don't know why anyone doesn't understand this. If I had to think about all the bucks that have passed me in the last 12 yrs and I couldn't verify...well I'd start to cry. There is NO Biological reason for saving spikes, Y's just to grow more bone for next year. But many want an "ate pointer" so those that were happy with the 3inch and up just get craped on. FT

I doubt it. Yesterday was just to nice and most stayed on stump#1 all day. In the AR restricted units, counting points keeps the shots down too....just sayin'

Sometimes I forget my camera so driveway or tailgates shots are it or nothing. And no, I don't have a "smart phone", I still have a wall phone with the cranker....sorry. :-) FT

Congrats! A nice one.

Hunted 4W yesterday and it was also quiet. Saw 3 doe (no tags) but shooting was down. Back at it tomorrow. I did have the biggest, fattest porcupine climb a hemlock next to me...must be eating good.

Didn't take my down from last year....one job already done!

.257 Roberts w/120gr Nosler partition (41gr IMR 4350). Sweet lil caliber but more than enough for deer.

X2 The lobes of an American chestnut are pointed not round.

RG, spot on. Everyone wants an "easy button". Just sayin'.

I'm just passing on the info...draw your own conclusions. Facts are in PA 40% of buck harvest removed in archery...big increase since x-bows legal. Last year buck harvest fell 11.2% while doe dropped 15.5% compared to previous year. Everyone here claims predators reason for poor recruitment. PGC keeps cutting antlerless permits and shorting season to 7 days from 12 for doe. NY doesn't appear to be having a recruitment problem...why not? BTW, archery accounted for about 25% of your buck harvest...keep it climbing and you'll be like PA.

http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=1740623&mode=2#TheTruthIsOutThere Deer Sex in the 21st Century: Part 2 By J.T. Fleegle PGC Wildlife Biologist LAST MONTH everything you thought you knew about the rut was turned on its ear. Tests confirm that does breed with more than one buck and 20 to 25 percent of the time twins aren't even full siblings. Has the deer world gone mad? How can dogma decades old just be tossed aside like yesterday's trash? It's simple. We call it science and research. Sometimes theories are supported, sometimes they aren't. Up until the turn of this century, DNA fingerprinting of deer was a pipe dream. It just didn't exist. All the research supported the theory of a male social hierarchy in which those at the top won the breeding rights with any and all does that crossed his path. With the advent of DNA technology, however, now we can "see" what we couldn't before. This new knowledge may come as a shock to us, but deer sex has been happening this way for eons. It's just taken us 100 years to realize it. So what is going on if the "prince of the forest" is just another face in the crowd? White-tailed bucks don't have harems or territories. They form a "tending bond" with a doe in estrous, staying with her for 24 to 48 hours. Does live in small groups and bucks chase individual does. The majority of does come into estrous at the same time. That means hundreds of thousands of does need to be bred during a 2-week period. Because bucks don't have harems or territories, they are stuck courting one doe at a time. That leaves the door wide open for all bucks to find one of those hundreds of thousands of does looking for a romantic encounter. No matter how dominant a buck is, he can be in only one place at one time. Okay, but certainly the larger, more dominant bucks do more of the breeding. Sorry. An ongoing long-term study shows that most males only sire one fawn per season, and over their breeding lifespan, the average isn't even two. The most successful bucks still have few fawns, and breeding success cannot be predicted by antler characteristics. Yearling males, despite holding the lowest position on the deer dominance totem pole, even breed. In fact, yearlings are part of the breeding scene in all populations studied, even those with a large portion of males 3.5 years and older. In the end, deer will keep having sex like they always have with no regard to our silly theories and assumptions. Everybody gets in on the action, so let the romance continue.

It was in the PGC Games News...I'll try to find it.

Studies have shown that bucks father only a few deer. Most doe come into heat around the same time and a buck will remain with ONE doe until she is out of heat. Yes I do...but not with a cocked, scoped x-bow.

Over here in PA the percentage of the total buck harvest has grown from 10% to 40% during archery. Do you think that maybe the breeding will be impacted as this harvest grows? Everyone wants first crack at the bucks and this trend will hurt. Note: male + female = fawn. Remove either before the rut = zero fawn.

Here's a better solution....wait until rifle season. Killing males before the rut is a bad idea anyway.

.32 Win Spl in PA. (3pt) I see a not of shotguns here, I guess due to shot gun only areas...right?.

X2. yep, not the original posters land.

Thxs for the update...I don't know why I was told the 5th?????

FYI, or maybe a friend you may know. A tackle box could mean $$$$$$$$ http://www.pafishers.com/pafishing/index.php?topic=206.0#msg3953 Got a call today from the Downsville office of land management. Lady asked me, "do you have a boat registered at Cannonsville resiviour at this location?" I told her I did, she asked me "are you missing anything of value?". Told her no, I was there a couple weeks ago & everything was ok. She told me that someone left something of "value" in a parking area and she was calling all the boat owners in that area to try & find the owner. I thought that was a really good gesture & I told her so, for both her and the office. Now, any member who might have lost whatever it is she is talking about, the office of land management in Downsville is holding it for you.

Just the way nature works....we just don't see this very often. Just sayin' FT

Tomorrow David Sweat will get his tightie-whites soaked with forecasted rain. I'm sure the black flies and mosquitos are eating well too.