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Thanks, so a person could in fact tag 5 deer. That is a lot of meat. Maybe one day

Yep, I read the guide. http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/wildlife_pdf/17biggame.pdf I threw my tags from last year so can't remember how it goes. So far I've bought this year: Permit + 2 DMP + bow privilege I have/had Regular tag (good for bucks only during regular OR either sex during late muzzle as long as I buy that privilege) Bow/mz either-sex 2 Doe-only via DMP If I now go out and get the muzzleloader privilege, will I get an additional tag, or was the "bow/mz the only extra tag I get from a privilege? Thanks!

Take this with a grain of salt because it's only my third year hunting. I love walmart hunting clothes. I bought, for $30, a pair of insulated flannel pants in 2015. Used them 40 times since then and they still look and feel good. They've been marched through thorn patches many times. Also very warm. Too warm in early season--so this past week I bought the same ones but without flannel. Walking around field & stream this past weekend I looked at the nice hunting gear including sitka. It's definitely finer stuff and if I had a bunch of money to spend on hunting I would, but I did touch a sitka flannel (or was it wool) zip up piece that was something like $160 and I truly had a hard time distinguishing it from the $20 zip up flannel I bought in 2015 which, like the pants, has been out more than 40 times. I do believe cheap boots are cheap, so I am okay spending more on them. Also mechanical gear and optics and the like I think the cheap stuff just won't serve nearly as well. This opinion all my change over time.

Another stupid law putting undue burden on thousands of people because of the bad act of one.

All mechanical devices eventually fail. Given the meat I have in a deep freeze, which sometimes goes days between me opening, it is clear I need a freezer alarm. Amazon has a bunch of wired ones but none of them appear to be very loud. I would like something loud so I can readily hear it. Anybody else here use one? I have the bulldog water alarms scattered throughout the house and a couple months ago one saved me from a saturated carpet. Love my alarms

Looks huge.

I'm looking for a spot for this coming weekend to tent-camp. Most places seem to have shut down earlier in the month. I think letchworth has a couple of cabins left only. Does anybody here know of any places within 90 minutes of Rochester that are still open to tents?

Here is the video I didn't post, but I came upon it recently. It's for a weird broadhead named the atom. I don't know if they still make them. It's basically just a field point with some "razor wire" attached to it. But apparently it's pretty blunt really and you can rake your finger against it. The argument they make in the video is that at the kind of speeds you're hitting with, you don't need much sharpness. Think paper cut: Move paper slowly, no cut, move fast, you get a cut. As I'm not convinced by the video, I'll defer to common wisdom and keep my heads as sharp as possible (as 99% of people say it is important). Still, I thought it was an interesting idea for a broadhead in any case. I bet it flies well

If he hated hunting I would understand it (though I think it is illegal), but another hunter? Crazy. Don't let him get away with it. Also, in new york it's one-party consent state. If you decide to go talk to him have your phone recording audio. 100% legal in New York.

My setup currently won't get two-sided penetration in a wet paper back. Definitely thinking broadhead is part of the equation! I know people want "shaving sharp" broadheads, but has anybody seen convincing penetration tests to confirm it matters that much? I have a video I won't post now because it may inflame (it's a bit cray cray), but shooting a deer does it truly make a big diff at arrow speeds if it's sharp as heck or just "kinda sharp"? Just playing devil's advocate. I've yet to hit a deer with a used broadhead fwiw.

Are you able to take quartering toward shots with that?

Never have because last two seasons the deer I hit just magically seem to make them disappear. If it's still in good shape, spin tests well (not bent), and you can replace the blades or sharpen them, I can't think of a reason not to use a BH again.

PSE Stinger, 50-70, so it's not maxed. I could max it and the arrows are spined for that, but I know 60 is more than ample to get deer. I'm going to give fixed broadheads a go, and for next bow season consider getting heavier arrows. If I could get up to 500 range it would certainly help with penetration. I do! The thing is so reliable, though.

That's just great. I never come up with material like this.

It's downright brisk out today. Really nice change of weather, good luck

Well kind of :). I hung my bow in the basement from the ceiling by the nock point, then I attached a backpack to the riser and kept adding weights to the bag until I discovered the very exact weight necessary to draw it. Then weighed myself, then myself with the backpack. I got down to adding cans of food at the end, so it was right at 60.

I dumped my walmart (Torid SS) front openers a couple weeks ago (no entry wounds) and went to a good mechanical (due to the reputation of their accuracy). Rage tested out well, but I then saw the montecs, so bought a box, and love the look of them (workmanship, no moving parts). But, I've only had them at the range once, at the end of last week. The few arrows I shot with them hit right on the money, so very good first impression. I will test them out again and then give them a go. To be honest at this point, though, maybe 1-2 more hunts with bow until crossbow starts. If I can get the montecs to hit where they should with xbow, they will be the ones I use for that as well.

Great morning today, finally cold! Good luck everyone.

I wish I had a chronograph to test its speed. It can group tightly (arrows fly consistently), it looks great on paper-tuning, and when I tried out a montec last week it was right on with the field point out to 50. It's possible the arrow pulled out a bit as it ran, but it did not make it to the lungs in either case, so it can't have pulled out much. On the buck the blades appeared to open between the ribs, sneaking in between, and then they stopped on the other side of the rib cage cutting a bit but failing to poke through at all. Typical. Went through one side and hung up unable to get through the ribs on the other. I'd like to get a chronograph for this bow now. I know it's at 60 because I tested it myself with weights last year. I don't have reason to doubt the bow other than the fact penetration is bad. Maybe something is off with it and there is a ton of energy not making it to the arrows.

Last two seasons I was on public land and it gets pressured all to hell. Very tough slogs each season getting on deer. This year I have some private land I'm using. Been out 6 times including today and have seen deer each time. I got on a crazy spot his morning. Deer everywhere. Only 1-2 at a time, but lots of individual sightings. Got this buck at 7:45 and this doe at 8:30. I'm posting this picture of the doe because as soon as the arrow went I knew it was not a good shot. The deer was 18-20 yards out, very clear sight, walking/eating slowly nice broadside/slight quartering away (textbook), but as I took the shot it quartered away hard (I think not quite as much as this arrow seems to hint--it may have swung a bit in the deer by the time it went down). The saving grace is that the arrow was still heading in the right direction. There was a constant, but light trail of blood. This was not a lung shot at all (it would have been had the arrow gone further in), and it was not a heart shot, but the deer was down in 70-80 yards. Massive internal bleeding but I'm not sure exactly how it died. I guess they can still die even if lungs aren't pierced if the diapham (?) is. Or, maybe I hit an artery. I got lucky on this one, when I saw the light blood and clear not a lung shot or heart I thought uh oh. I gotta say I was quite surprised when I walked up on it. And this is a problem: Per typical, I get very little penetration. This arrow only made it a foot in or so. I'm pulling 60 pounds @ 29" @ 315 IBO w/ 410 grain arrows. I've never even made a second hole in a deer (let alone pass through) no matter where I hit them. I switched to rage 2 blades a couple weeks ago and they make a brutal entrance hole (that alone is why I was able to find this deer, as it bled out of the entrance).

I got my chisel tip 2-blade Rage going. The test head shoots very nicely. Can't tell a difference out to 50 yards with it. I also today finally got to test the G5 Montec and I love it. Out to 50 I couldn't discern an impact difference with field points. I'd never shot fixed before and was worried about how they'd fly, but no problems. I think I prefer them because as long as I can get them to hit where fields do (and it did), I need not worry one iota about the blades not opening properly, or the practice tip not being quite 100% the same as the actual heads, etc. Both the rage and montec, like my Torid SS i have been using, hiss through the air. No whistling, though. Until/unless somebody can prove front-opening broadheads don't bleed more KE and/or leave blood trails similar to fixed or rear-opening, I'm done with them. Don't want to use them again, even though I do like the fact they expose even less blade surface to the air than other heads. My avatar is exactly what happens with front opening into a tree and I think they do the same thing in a deer. The entry hole just sucks. I know Swhackers are aware of this and address it by having the front tips sharpened to make at least some sort of an entrance cut.

Earlier this week I was in my climber, bottom of it 15' off the ground. I was wearing camo except for my solid black long-sleeve shirt. The same shirt that last weekend I sat in for an hour with a doe bedded 26 yards from me and totally disinterested in me, despite its body pointed my way. I was in a ravine, 30 yards from the hill, and the hill was about 10 yards high. 70 yards away, directly down-wind, I see a small deer cross a path. Soon after a larger doe comes out and immediately looks at me. I am not moving at all, but it looks directly my way. It spends the next several minutes marching toward me stamping its front foot and bobbing its head up and down, looking at me the entire time. Finally it gets within 40 yards, decides it's seen enough, and it fairly casually jogs back down the trail and up the ravine out of view with three young ones. 5 minutes later I see deer at the top of the ravine. One of them is staring at me again. It comes to the top of the ravine stamping, bobbing its head. Eventually it starts blowing, but it does that several times out of total disgust at me, before turning away and taking its kids once again. 20-30 min after this I see, in the same spot, another deer (!)--yes the same one. Stares at me for a while. It doesn't blow at me, but it takes off. Long story short This doe made me 70 yards down wind as I was not moving, through a bit of brush. Got all pissy, came back later to check me out, then again later on. This thing was crazy assertive and that is not going to serve it well come gun season, but my suspicion is it made me by smell and then a combination of the climber looking like a big wart plus my black shirt (maybe) told it something was off. I've since replaced the shirt with a camo one. I've never had a deer make me and do anything other than go away not to be seen again. Never seen one so assertive.

I assume they already have car accidents and ticks all over the place, but people don't care. What's really important here is that the cop got a big pat on the back for his "vigilance" in taking down this menace to society. I agree he should be ticketed for hunting in a non-hunting area and using the wrong implement, but it's not like he was building bombs in his shed.

Your life can get messed up because somebody makes up some garbage about you. It's one of the reasons I surround my house with cameras, why I have dash cams in my cars as well. At some future point technology will have us filming everything we do 24/7 and uploading it to the cloud and at that point at least false accusations like this will be a thing of the past (as well as privacy also gone).

NY knife law is deliberately, intentionally vague so that if a cop has a run-in with somebody he doesn't like he can start piling on weapons charges. I understand a mag light is a mag light unless you leave your car in a road rage incident with it. That's easy to understand, but I'm positive a lot of people have been steamrolled by dirty police work and unreasonable prosecutors over vague laws.