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I do NOT WANT full inclusion. BTW, I bought a crossbow this year. I would like to see the first 5 weeks vertical only as it is today. My reasons you've all read before. I'm surprised gun hunters are not more up in arms. If it goes full inclusion I'll bring out the xbow Oct 1, but for a gun hunter now they have had even more people than ever before ruining the woods for the prior 7 weeks leaving them with sloppy seconds. If I were a gun-only hunter I would be vehemently against full inclusion. Most of the arguments supporting full inclusion could also be used to support, say, muzzleloading starting Oct 1 as well. Be careful what you wish for.

I actually didn't know they existed. Now I do! It seems some people share the same issue, hence their existence, but unfortunately the el cheapos at walmart won't do it. It sounds like my problem is a) cheap stand and b ) where I put it. The tree I put it on is in the open, but it's just a great crossroads for deer. I like the netting idea a lot to cover the bottom somewhat. I wonder if it would blow around too much.

Last couple of years I've dragged around a climber on state land. I have a spot this year on private and we put in a 2 person ladder stand from Walmart. Instant climb, lots of room, it's great. Shooting rail that can get out of the way. I sat down yesterday ready to go, and then when some deer came into view I stood up...and felt very naked! First, this stand is only 15' to shooting rail, so my feet are only 12' up from the ground! But worse than that, since the seat does not pivot up (like a lock on does), or "smush back" out of the way (like my viper climber does), when I stand to get ready to shoot I'm now well away from the tree standing out in the open. It also means I can't lean against the tree. I think this stand is going to be good for gun/xbow because I can stay seated for those and also shoot from further away, but the only recourse I can see now is buying a hang-on and using the ladder stand to climb up to it. I can get a few more feet in elevation, and with the seat out of the way I can snug up close to the tree to remain a little more hidden. Others have similar experience with bow?

Find where I left my gear after last year.

Only two arrows today, both 30 yards. Also served as confirmation my range-finder is still good. I shoot 99.9% of arrows at targets of known range, so when I got out there today at a free target I was sure it had to be at least 40 and my range-finder's 30 yard finding was wrong, so I'd need a new rangefinder before Sunday. The 30 yard pin confirmed my rangefinder works and affirmed exactly why I bought it! My Torid SS broad heads hit the same as field points on this setup so I won't even bother shooting any this year.

Nice!

If I had land I would also build a blind with insulation, tv, heater, and a food plot, for the record.

Me, neither, but I drink tons of coffee!

Well...they are, really aren't they

I don't like lots of regulation, but we all know 99% of those products are being used on private land to illegally attract deer during hunting season. We know that. So does the state and those selling it.

no, I also can't hunt saturday--pissed at the law

I listen to trance on the way to the stand, including at least one track from Blackmill for good luck. Normally fried eggs, sometimes will great a sausage egg mcmuffin on the way. If I'm lucky, I woke early enough to have some tea and get "get the morning's duty" out of the way

Finally ready. Almost. Clothes washed, cleaned, just need to sawyer them on Saturday. Bow was dialed in last year but had some peep issues to fix. Got that sorted today, despite limited practice time this year accuracy is just as good as I finished last season at. I know which tree I'll be in, so good to go Sunday.

Oh it was beautiful this morning. Crisp and a mist coming down. about 60 F. And at lunch the wind caught me and I dare not used the word chilly, but, I was not hot. Supposed to hit 80 next week mid-week but at least the weekend is realistic.

Yes. Guns don't need much work anyway. I can't imagine paying somebody money to mount a scope or give it a deep cleaning. I bought a small mobile bow press a couple years ago after getting sick of ineffective work done to a peep sight, which was costing me each time, and required me to drive out to get it done. The truth is compressing a bow and installing some serving and general fiddling around is not difficult. No need to pay for that. I saw a guy at the range trying to get his pins set for his bow and he literally couldn't wrap his head around how the peep and the pins worked together to get the arrow on target. I think a person ought to know how to do this, and do it themselves.

This guy has a 99% let off vid but too much of a wuss to take his device off it: also this thread has a pic: http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1967983&page=6

~59. I might have even brought it up to 60 last year just on principle. I know deer die just fine at 50 (and even lower), but more draw weight very slightly reduces the margin of error with ranging (higher speed/less drop) the target and slightly increases the damage to the target. Both of these are hardly measurable in practice, of course. I might lower it more comfortably into the 50's at some point just for long term injury prevention.

Still kinda pissed I can't hunt saturday. Thank God I opened the door this morning and it felt like fall. Last few days have been despicable. No better word for it.

You're saying the very same arrows, with equally weighted broad heads (a cheap scale wouldn't hurt to confirm), consistently three inches below at 20 yards? Seems very strange to suffer such a change in impact as severe as that. I have read a lot about tuning and I remain convinced a lot of it is like reading tea-leaves. A lot of the guides online don't make any sense whatsoever, and some of them even defy physics. I do personally like paper tuning a lot because it can give you a snapshot about the arrow's angle in flight. I've also had some marginal success putting a lighted nock on my arrow and filming in slow motion from behind. The nock is highlighted in the low-lighting of slow motion and can pick up stuff like fish tailing. All that nonsense aside, though, like you said. It's late. If in doubt, just choose an arrow or two as a practice broadhead arrow and adjust your pins (not the biscuit) so that you're hitting nicely at 20 and 30, and forget about it until bow season is over to figure out more precisely what's going on.

I only got one deer and I still have some left. Maybe two roasts, some pepperoni (not much) and maybe three dozen sausages. If I get a deer early I'll crank through this fast to make way.

I know a lot of people don't use tubed peep sights. They wear, get snagged, snap when pulling back on a 40 point buck of a lifetime, etc. but I've spent too much time fiddling around with non-tubed sights, and by God the tubed ones just align beautifully every time. They do break, though. Some people said to use silicone tubing, but the stuff I got on amazon for peep sights was massively worse than the latex my peep sights tend to come with. It slipped off the sight and snapped in very few shots, time and again. I think it's no good for the application. I've taken to getting new tubing by buying new sights just for the tubing. Any other good sources? I Picked up a tru-glo peep in walmart yesterday and the tube was really weird. Stupid stuff and just terrible. I couldn't buy the sight because of it.

I wonder though at this point what advancements are left. Is the broadhead world more like the fashion world that just arbitrarily changes over time? I consider these the two essential qualities of a broadhead: 1) Consistent, repeatable flight 2) Maximum damage to target I wonder if you were to buy all the brands at field and stream and put them in a hooter shooter if you could even detect much difference at all out to 30 yards on the first criteria. And if you were to try and measure the second by lining up a thousand deer and hitting 100 of them each with one of 10 different broadheads if you could even find a statistically significant difference in fatality between any of them as well. How much of the different broad heads is worth a damn and how much is like saying nike sneakers make you a faster runner than new balance?

Yeti coolers are hilarious. Some people spend money on the stupidest stuff, really they do. Generally chinese quality is poor because it's what US distributors and manufacturers ask for (and pay for). I have gone through a bin of pliers before at harbor freight looking for a pair that actually were not offset. Pathetic quality, just pathetic. But I can also buy a $20 drone that has a radio receiver, battery, four motors, and a microprocessor and gyroscope and it works amazingly. Chinese manufacturing, like any other, creates exactly what is demanded of it. And sometimes we demand garbage, so it's what we get. China produces from the most garbage quality junk metal tools that snap when you pick them up to finely crafted smart phones. I also know they can create a very good broadhead for well south of a dollar and that the margin on these broadheads is stratospheric. Apparently lots of brands agree, because I was in field and stream yesterday and found some that are $50 for a pack, and at least a dozen different brands. If I can buy a cheap cordless drill for $15, don't tell me it costs the same amount for a tiny knife.

It's not lucky to get your finger busted up, but considering the gun blew up and almost like a comic book in his hand, he did get off lucky indeed. Plus caught on video.

Surely that's a farm deer?