goosifer
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Wow, nice buck! Congratulations. What a day. So you didn't have your wife help you drag that thing?
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With the wind in my face, I thought I'd try putting the scent on the ground perpendicular to the wind, if that's what you mean.
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I'd like to try this as the wind direction probably won't be conducive to using the scent hangers. I understand the basic concept, and I could certainly google the topic, but I thought I might find some members who would share how they do it. How much doe urine? On what? How long of a drag? For example, one ounce of urine on an old cotton hankerchief dragged 25 yards away from your stand in both directions? Start by the stand or farthest spot away? Thanks.
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Why stop at having pizza and groceries delivered? Millennial hunters, your prayers have been answered! I drove by this trailer in somebody's driveway on the way home a couple of hours ago. They come right to your house. They'll even field dress it for you. DISCLAIMER: I have no idea if they are any good. I was just intrigued by the concept. My wife would be thrilled to see guy in our driveway addendum: I showed this to my wife and she did point out that for hunters who are handicapped or elderly, this could make sense. She still doesn't ever want to see it in our driveway, though.
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kids these days, I tell ya . . . .
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Great job and wonderful story, @TreeGuy! I would call it a good karma buck. All the good you do comes back to you.
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Great job, Biz. Great story and great pictures. So when are you going to start processing your own and complete the hunter cycle?
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LIVE From The Woods 2019 - Lets hear stories and see some pictures!
goosifer replied to fasteddie's topic in Deer Hunting
All quiet on the deer front in 9A. Wind has picked up considerably from the morning, from S to SW. Chance of rain with darkening skies. -
LIVE From The Woods 2019 - Lets hear stories and see some pictures!
goosifer replied to fasteddie's topic in Deer Hunting
Didn't coyote season start? -
LIVE From The Woods 2019 - Lets hear stories and see some pictures!
goosifer replied to fasteddie's topic in Deer Hunting
In the stand, ready to go. Man I carry a lot of crap. At least I didn't get too sweated up on the walk in like I usually do. Wind is surprisingly calm coming out of the South. -
LIVE From The Woods 2019 - Lets hear stories and see some pictures!
goosifer replied to fasteddie's topic in Deer Hunting
@wolc123, if you want you can donate to the Venison Donation Coalition via this gofundme organized by Rochester QDMA. It's tax deductible! link -
LIVE From The Woods 2019 - Lets hear stories and see some pictures!
goosifer replied to fasteddie's topic in Deer Hunting
button buck down? -
Steve, not to speak for @Chef, but I think you are missing the point. The issue being addressed is not about keeping everything as clean as possible. The issue is, simply, if you are going to rinse out the carcass, dry it out afterwards.
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I haven't seen many deer on this camera, much less bucks, much less bucks during the day. Would it be reasonable to assume that this guy was out in the middle of the day because he's looking for love? NW corner of 9A, Niagara county.
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Jay, I am so sorry for your loss.
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@Daveboone, There is nothing wrong with a clean carcass. There is nothing wrong with rinsing a carcass. But if you are going to rinse, you need to make sure there is no residual moisture trapped in the carcass afterwards. That moisture will be a breeding ground for bacteria. So that's why it's recommended that you wipe it down with a towel afterward. Clean is good; left visibly wet, not good. I'm sorry, but with respect to the bold italicized section above, you literally don't know what you are talking about. And I am not speaking up to give you a hard time, or tell you what to do. Rather, I am speaking up in case there is some newbie who reads what you wrote and mimics you. All other things being equal, moisture promotes bacteria growth. Period. It's a fact, not a theory. Water helps the existing bacteria grow. No one is saying that water "contaminates" anything (Unless you are using creek water . . .) Regarding packing the carcass in snow after field dressing, I think that is a bad idea. If you need to use snow to clean the interior, I understand, but wipe it out afterwards. To deliberately pack snow inside the carcass is going to lead to excess moisture at some point when the snow starts to melt. If it's cold enough to have snow out, it's probably cold enough that the deer will cool down quickly enough just by hanging it from a tree. So packing it in snow to cool it down is not necessary. Another thing. There are various factors that contribute to bacterial growth. Off the top of my head, they include temperature, pH, air and food source. If a deer processor hoses off a carcass and then puts in in the refrigerator, that's OK because the temperature will be (should be) low enough to inhibit bacterial growth. Conversely, several people have mentioned rinsing using cool, clean water during field dressing. Well if the carcass temperature and/or the ambient air temperature is above 40, then that the water is cool isn't going to help inhibit bacterial growth. Look, don't take my word for it. If you are sincerely interested, I'd be happy to post a few links to articles from sources like the USDA and state university coops that explain this bacteria stuff. But I suspect you won't care, so I won't bother. Are there any food service professionals on this board that have taken a food science or food safety and sanitation class that can help me out here? @Chef? This is really crazy, that we, as a forum, would allow such bad, and potentially dangerous, advice to go unchallenged. I feel like the food safety Jeremiah.
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You seem more like a Barney type of guy. After your time, I guess?
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Duplicate. Ignore
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Theory? It's called biology. You also seem to be confusing rinsing as part of field dressing vs. rinsing before butchering. Whatever.
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It is generally recommended to not rinse out the cavity unless you have a gut shot, urine or feces in the cavity. If you don't have these issues, you are better off just turning the deer over and let the blood drain out. If you do rinse, you should dry out the inside afterwards with a towel as much as possible. The added moisture in the cavity will promote bacterial growth. Source: https://extension.psu.edu/proper-field-dressing-and-handling-of-wild-game-and-fish Update: This issue is, surprisingly, more controversial than I realized. Michigan agrees with what I wrote above: https://www.michigan.gov/documents/dnr/how_to_field-dress_deer_493715_7.pdf Pennsylvania kind of leaves it up to you, but does say to wipe it dry to avoid bacteria growth. https://extension.psu.edu/proper-field-dressing-and-handling-of-wild-game-and-fish Ohio says to rinse the cavity "back at the barn", not in the field; does not mention wiping it dry https://wildlife.ohiodnr.gov/portals/wildlife/pdfs/publications/hunting/pub111.pdf Tennessee says the same as Pennsylvania https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/twra/documents/gamehandling.pdf Can't find a New York state source. I guess this issue is debatable. I think we can all agree that we want to minimize conditions that promote bacterial growth.
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LIVE From The Woods 2019 - Lets hear stories and see some pictures!
goosifer replied to fasteddie's topic in Deer Hunting
I'm guessing Biz. -
LIVE From The Woods 2019 - Lets hear stories and see some pictures!
goosifer replied to fasteddie's topic in Deer Hunting
It's OK, the client is paying for it Odd you took your pic halfway through your meal. Finish that sucker up! -
So do you remove the wind pipe and esophagus when field dressing, or later when processing?