Hoyt 300 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I shot Rage 2 blades for 3 years. Last year I had a bad shot on a doe and lost confidence in them. This year I switched to Slick Trick Viper Tricks. I am totally satisfied with these. 3 Doe in the freezer. Excellent blood trails and none have gone more than 50 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Good point about the O-ring. Check the blades when they are locked back. If they are even a little loose replace the O-ring. If the blades deploy while the arrow is in flight, it will fly all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 For a practice head to be shoot TWO FEET off at that distance, as compared to the regular head tells me it's either a significantly off-weight or machined PH (highly unlikely to be THAT far off), or there is something else wrong with you or your setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 If you decide to give up on the Rage II's and toss them in a dark hole , I would try thjs . Take one of the mechanicals , super glue the blades so they cannot deploy ( so it would be like the practice head ) and shoot it . See if it hits way off as it originally did . Let us know the results . ....... Just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 You can also tie them up with dental floss to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbreed Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 Like i said the rage practice tip shoots great, it soots the same as normal field tips, but when i shot the real broadheads they shot way off, im thinking they are opening before they get to the target, sooon as the wind calms down this afternoon hopefull ill be out shooting them to see if i get the same results, if i do im trashing them and gettting new broadheads. i have never had this problem before and i have been bow hunting for 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njg0621 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I find this very hard to believe... I would say there was a combination of other things that may have caused you to miss the deer. I shoot rage broadheads and they shoot the same as my field points. The problem I have with this is you claim that they shoot 2ft low! No matter what the practice tips don't shoot thta much different where you would be 2ft low. I mean I could understand maybe a couple inches but 2ft? Not possible... Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbreed Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 I find this very hard to believe... I would say there was a combination of other things that may have caused you to miss the deer. I shoot rage broadheads and they shoot the same as my field points. The problem I have with this is you claim that they shoot 2ft low! No matter what the practice tips don't shoot thta much different where you would be 2ft low. I mean I could understand maybe a couple inches but 2ft? Not possible... Just my opinion. didnt say i shot 2 feet low i said it shot about to feet left . i find it hard to believe too being that i went up after the miss, shot my other rage broad heads and they flew exactly the same as the one i missed the deer with, but when i put the practice rage back on it shot dead nuts on the same as normal field tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doewhacker Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Have you tuned your arrow with broad heads on before? A proper tune is important no matter the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbreed Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 i have never had this probelem before. this is the 1st year i decided to try rage. soon as i get a chance ill be out shooting again, i can promis you that i wont be hunting till i know my equipement is working properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kot2B Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Have you ever paper tested your bow? It could be something other than the broad head. I like the idea someone posted about tying up the broad head so it didn't open and check that way. Could weigh the broad head and practice and see if they are the same too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Like i said the rage practice tip shoots great, it soots the same as normal field tips, but when i shot the real broadheads they shot way off, im thinking they are opening before they get to the target, sooon as the wind calms down this afternoon hopefull ill be out shooting them to see if i get the same results, if i do im trashing them and gettting new broadheads. i have never had this problem before and i have been bow hunting for 10 years. If you are going to trash them like you said , try what I suggested and glue one shut or tie one closed with dental floss and see what happens when you shoot it at your target . You have nothing to lose but a few minutes of your time . As suggested , they might be opening prematurely . I always made sure the blades were secure when I put the Rage arrow on my string . Never had a problem with one . It's not always the equipment . Often it's the person not being familiar with the equipment . Just a thought . Not a slam . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbreed Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 yeah fasteddie ill try that out if i decide to not use them, thanks for the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Newbreed , let us know the results . thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeGuy Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Anything ? I am curious to see what the deal is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbreed Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 SO i got a chance to shoot last night, first i i shot my rage practice tip, it was right on, next i shot a normal field tip it was right on. then i use a rage broad head with just an O ring.......it shot dead on. so i shoot again with just an O ring it shot dead on again. now mind you i when i was missing i had the O ring with the Orange shock coller, so i set up and arrow just like that i shoot and miss about 10 inches left and low. now thats not the 2 feet i said earlier but still a big miss, so i set up another arrow with the broad head, O ring and Orange shock coller and it misses left again, switch back to just O ring and shoot and its dead on, so my conclusion is that for some reason the Rage Broadheads that I have dont soot well when the O ring and shock coller are used together..... so i shot enough to getmy confidence back up i pretty much shot one of the Rages so much that it will be just emergance arrow form now on.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Well, did you spin test the Rage with the collar before season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow nocker Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) I just checked all mine in the quiver before i loaded everything in my truck and two were out of the shock collar.Junk.I would rather have the o-rings.Never had this problem.Only problem they had is they would crack.I am scared now.Hope i don't blow it if i see a big one and these things come out before they hit the deer.There goes the confidence. Edited October 31, 2012 by arrow nocker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbreed Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 Phade, no i did not i jsut put it on and assumed it was good, and we all know what happens when we assume things.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I believe it'll spin wrong or your head with the collar is deploying before impact. Anyhow, fixed and you are back in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 i doan use no steenkin shock collar ! I am guessing the shock collar has some sort of adverse effect on the flight of the arrow . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxsmitz201 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Seems like everybody and their brother uses rage broadheads yet they are the ones i hear the most problems with. Which makes sense since they are so popular youll hear more about them but nothing about them turns me on. Im perfectly content shooting my spitfire maxx's, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njg0621 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 didnt say i shot 2 feet low i said it shot about to feet left . i find it hard to believe too being that i went up after the miss, shot my other rage broad heads and they flew exactly the same as the one i missed the deer with, but when i put the practice rage back on it shot dead nuts on the same as normal field tips. Even if you were shooting the wrong grain broadhead it wouldn't shoot 2ft off in any direction... problem wiht the way you are setup or the way you are shooting your bow. If you want to blame it on the broadhead that is ok too. Let me put it to you this way I have shot arrows without ANYTHING on them, no field tip or broadhead and they still hit the target. Like I siad if we were talking inches I would totally agree witih your statement but 2ft is more than a broadhead. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbreed Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 nig0621 go back and read the rest of this post i figured out what my problem was. thanks for your input though. and good luck to you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterGuy Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Now im all worried now cause i havent let a 2" with a shock collar fly. gonna have to do that when i get home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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