The Emperors view on youth crime

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Blue coupe, are you serious? I'm playing the race card? Did you actually read the posts before mine. I was challenging others who were steering this thread down that road.

But from the count on the number of incidents it sure seems to be race related. (Why I think the hate crime statute should be applied to these cases more). We can sit here and say it isn't about race but the fact remains that, to the people committing these crimes it IS about race. Not all blacks want to sucker punch and old white guy and not every white guy wants to do the same to an elderly black person. But the ones that are doing this sure seem to be a different race for the assailant and the victims. (I am speaking only of this knockout game thing). With that I have still only seen one report of a charge of hate crime and that was against a white assailant, and rightfully so. I wish the door swung both ways.

[bluecoupe]

Culvercreek; if you google "knockout charged with hate crime"  you'll see there are.   I agree that to the people doing the crime it probably definitely is based on races but I don't see it limited to one.   I think it's more related to gang and "hood" behavior which encompasses all races.

 

 

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Culvercreek; if you google "knockout charged with hate crime" you'll see there are. I agree that to the people doing the crime it probably definitely is based on races but I don't see it limited to one. I think it's more related to gang and "hood" behavior which encompasses all races.

I would love for someone to actually point to a case. I knew of the one black in Brooklyn that was held but not charged with a hate crime. Can anyone show me one with charges being placed? I am not trying to be difficult. I can't find any even though the vast majority of these have been black on white crime.

[bluecoupe]

Take your pick

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=knockout+charged+with+hate+crime

Edited January 21, 2014 by bluecoupe

[silent death]

The reason why kids are the way they are today is because they ain't bein punished

Parents today have to walk a fine line because everything in today's world is

Considered abuse ...just imagine if these kids today tried half

Of the stuff they do back when we wer kids. My parents wouldn't

Hesitate to beat my ass back then. But if you do that in today's

World you are in court....I say give parents back there rights

And stop bein so pc about crap....I ain't promoting beating your kid

But I tell you this if my kids ever acted like these little punks

Running around they would be visiting that gray area lol.

[ants]

Little King Andy is just pandering to his supporters in Harlem. Calling this whole thing a "civil rights crisis" is meant to to divide people/ races and to drum up votes for the King. It is a shameless move, but thats the type of "man" he is. 

As for prosecuting 16 or 17 year olds as adults…over the years I have met countless people who were hardened criminals by the time they were 16 or 17. The reason why? Because people younger than 16 were given slaps on the wrist, with a feather duster, for committing crimes up to and including felonies. They had no deterrent and continued to victimize people and neighborhoods, for years. Lil Andy classifies them as victims???

 

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Take your pick

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=knockout+charged+with+hate+crime

Not to bust your chops. Did you read any of them?

[bluecoupe]

eh - bust away - everyone else does. ;-)

I certainly didn't study them but did a quick skim of a couple.  Enough to know they were charged with hate crimes but not far enough to find out what the lib lawyers and judges got 'em off with.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

eh - bust away - everyone else does. ;-)

I certainly didn't study them but did a quick skim of a couple. Enough to know they were charged with hate crimes but not far enough to find out what the lib lawyers and judges got 'em off with.

I searches pages and pages. Seems to be the same one over and over. The only black assailant is the Barry guy from Brooklyn and the hate crime charge he was held on was never made, only the assaults. Sure would seem to me that if anything his actions, since they were multiethnic assaults would have really fit the hate crime definition. I don't know and the media only hints that his victims were Jewish. They kept talking about how he focused on a predominant my Jewish section but never tell that they all were actually Jewish. Obviously someone has removed the blindfold from Lady Justice's eyes. Doesn't seem to be fair and equal under the law anymore. ( for many many things)

[bluecoupe]

ok, now that I agree with.  Equal prosecution/treatment by our system went out the window long ago.  But people seem to be being charged kind of equally, it's what happens after that that depends on lawyers, judges, public opinion, etc.

[Mr VJP]

Hate crime laws were designed to charge whites with crimes against minorities.  Minorities are hardly ever charged with them, no matter who they beat, rob, or kill.

 

Hate crime laws should be eliminated as unequal treatment under the law.

 

As far as the knock out game goes, find me an instance of a black youth knocking out a black woman, or even a black man.  I rest my case.

 

[philoshop]

Prosecutors are, by nature, political animals. "Conservation of resources" in their offices means they will prosecute with full resources only those cases most likely to end in a conviction. The political atmosphere in NY pretty much guarantees that 'hate crime' charges will not be leveled against someone who is not white. Too much political opposition for them to even go there. FWIW this was related to me by an assistant district attorney, who happens to be black, and a hell of a sax player, that I played in a couple of bands with. A great guy, and it pi***d him off as much as it did me.