Cabin Fever Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I think they should start handing out some shovels! LOL http://comptroller.nyc.gov/newsroom/cold-hard-facts-cost-of-ice-and-snow-removal-in-new-york-city-averages-1-8-million-per-inch/ PR15-01-010 NEWS RELEASE Contact : Eric Sumberg, [email protected], 212-669-3535 January 29, 2015 COLD, HARD FACTS: COST OF ICE AND SNOW REMOVAL IN NEW YORK CITY AVERAGES $1.8 MILLION PER INCH New Comptroller Stringer analysis reveals per inch cost grows with very low or very high seasonal snowfall amounts New Comptroller Stringer analysis reveals per inch cost grows with very low or very high seasonal snowfall amounts (New York, NY) – Light snow and heavy snow seasons are significantly more expensive than average snow seasons on a cost-per-inch basis, according to a new analysis released today by New York City Comptroller Scott M. Stringer. Since the winter of 2003, the cost of clearing New York City streets of snow and ice has averaged $1.8 million per inch, but that amount has varied considerably on a year-to-year basis. “Snow removal costs the City millions of dollars annually, but it turns out that average winters give us the best bang for the buck on that front,” Comptroller Stringer said. “The total amount that the City pays to plow our streets grows with each storm, but counterintuitively, it’s a lot more expensive per inch when we get a little, or a lot, of snow in a season. Consider the old adage of $1 million per inch debunked.” The City budgets annually for snow removal based on the average amount spent over the previous five years. However, the amount the City spends varies according to snowfall amounts during the winter season. Annual costs for ice and snow removal range from a low of $25.4 million to a high of $130.7 million and averaged $55.3 million from FY03-FY14. For the same period, annual snowfall totals averaged 35.9 inches per year, with a high of 61.5 inches in FY11 and a low of 6.8 inches in FY12. The Comptroller’s Office analyzed ice and snow removal using two major components-personal services, such as employee overtime, and hourly wages for temporary workers, and other than personal services, such as payments to snow-removal contractors, the cost of materials, equipment, fuel, maintenance and training. While total costs vary year by year, the per-inch cost of snow and ice removal followed a declining cost curve and averaged $1.8 million from FY03-FY14. However, the costs per inch of snow removal are significantly higher in light snow years than in heavier ones. The lowest cost-per-inch was $740,000 in FY03 when the City experienced a snowfall amount of 55 inches. The highest observed cost was $4.4 million per inch in FY12 when only 6.8 inches fell. Higher costs for winters with little snowfall are driven mainly by the fact that, no matter how much snow falls, the city must take certain precautions to be ready for any eventuality. The sweet spot of optimal per inch costs lands at approximately 43 inches. However, if snowfall exceeds the band within 24 and 56 inches per season, history shows that costs begin to rise again on a per inch basis due to the sheer scale of the task at hand. Costs for personal services similarly tracked the pattern of lower costs per inch when snow fall fell within the average range: higher costs were seen when snowfall was less than 13 inches or more than 43 inches. The two years with the most snow – FY11 and FY14 – were 125% and 136% above the average annual cost, respectively. Both of these fiscal years were characterized by large storms early in the season. “The men and women who keep our streets clean deserve all the credit in the world for keeping us safe. Winter weather can be unpredictable, but with this analysis we can reasonably predict what the cost of keeping our streets free of snow and ice will be for any given snowfall amount. The more we know about our costs, the better prepared we can be for our budgeting,” Stringer said. - See more at: http://comptroller.nyc.gov/newsroom/cold-hard-facts-cost-of-ice-and-snow-removal-in-new-york-city-averages-1-8-million-per-inch/#sthash.IHCO5S3e.dpuf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Thats allot of hooie to basicaly outline how they need to keep streets passable so the welfare addicts can get to the stores and use their ebt cards. We certainly wouldnt want them to fall and sue what remaining taxpayers are still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Thats allot of hooie to basicaly outline how they need to keep streets passable so the welfare addicts can get to the stores and use their ebt cards. We certainly wouldnt want them to fall and sue what remaining taxpayers are still there. That's a wide paintbrush. Not like NYC isn't one of most important business/financial/overnmental cities in the world or anything. I actually thought the number would be higher per inch. fire trucks, emts, business, employment, sanitation...there's alot of impact if you don't plow/salt/sand or do a reduced job at it. Sometimes costs are what they are...a necessary evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sogaard Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Thats allot of hooie to basicaly outline how they need to keep streets passable so the welfare addicts can get to the stores and use their ebt cards. We certainly wouldnt want them to fall and sue what remaining taxpayers are still there. I really hope this was an attempt at humor, and you don't actually believe this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I really hope this was an attempt at humor, and you don't actually believe this. yeah, if you look at the crime rates in NYS by population, NYC is certainly not the worst........and there is no doubt that crime rates are directly linked to unemployment, the economy and a few other factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EspressoBuzz Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Thats allot of hooie to basicaly outline how they need to keep streets passable so the welfare addicts can get to the stores and use their ebt cards. We certainly wouldnt want them to fall and sue what remaining taxpayers are still there. I've never resorted to this here: You are a fu*kin idiot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Thats allot of hooie to basicaly outline how they need to keep streets passable so the welfare addicts can get to the stores and use their ebt cards. We certainly wouldnt want them to fall and sue what remaining taxpayers are still there. that got me looking at Cities in NY and I randomly selected this little tidbit..... http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/09/syracuse_revealed_as_23rd_poorest_city_in_the_us_by_census_database.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 That's a wide paintbrush. Not like NYC isn't one of most important business/financial/overnmental cities in the world or anything. I actually thought the number would be higher per inch. fire trucks, emts, business, employment, sanitation...there's alot of impact if you don't plow/salt/sand or do a reduced job at it. Sometimes costs are what they are...a necessary evil. And the fact that they need to have everything up an running immediately. Millions of $s are lost every hour whenever certain offices don't open. I remember my few years in Detroit. After a snow fall, some streets won't be cleared for a couple of days. In NYC, it's cleared within the hour. Sure that big bad blizzard turned out to be nothing special but it fell late Monday night. Tuesday morning I went to work for a couple of hours and walked on concrete and asphalt during my entire commute. Door to door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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