Magazine Limits Can Be A Bad Thing

[Mr VJP]

Cuomo says you only need 7 rounds.  Can I sue him if I needed more?

 

[fasteddie]

And ..... when thugs break into your house and you call 911 , the police are only MINUTES away !

[EspressoBuzz]

This is a PSA for mandatory gun handling course. First off study after study has proven that thieves would not continue to break in when shots have been already fired. Secondly the home owner if properly instructed about firearms use and home protection would;

A- know how many rounds he had and fired.

B- not be standing in the open like a target at the firing range.

C- would have had another clip ready to go since the law does not limit how many clips you can have.

 

This goes to the heart of what I've always felt. You can buy a handgun without any kind of education on its use and precautions but you cant drive a car without passing a test, and in some states repeating the test when a certain age is reached.

 

Why aren't more gun advocates for mandatory firearms education and/or certification?

 

PS the stopping power of the handgun in the video is much greater than the video shows, he didn't have to shoot him again he could have just kicked  him in the face at that point.

Edited January 31, 2015 by EspressoBuzz

[ny hunter]

I hope I never find myself and family in that position....

[Mr VJP]

This is a PSA for mandatory gun handling course. First off study after study has proven that thieves would not continue to break in when shots have been already fired. Secondly the home owner if properly instructed about firearms use and home protection would;

A- know how many rounds he had and fired.

B- not be standing in the open like a target at the firing range.

C- would have had another clip ready to go since the law does not limit how many clips you can have.

 

This goes to the heart of what I've always felt. You can buy a handgun without any kind of education on its use and precautions but you cant drive a car without passing a test, and in some states repeating the test when a certain age is reached.

 

Why aren't more gun advocates for mandatory firearms education and/or certification?

 

PS the stopping power of the handgun in the video is much greater than the video shows, he didn't have to shoot him again he could have just kicked  him in the face at that point.

 

First off, I've known perps to continue advancing on police officers after being shot, and many have continued to invade homes after being shot at.  I do not know what "studies" you are referring to, but I doubt they are unbiased or peer reviewed.

Blaming a home owner for not properly defending himself with his firearm is excusing the perps for the invasion.

 

Next, owning a firearm for defense is a RIGHT.  Owning and driving a car isn't.

 

Mandatory anything is a deterrent.  Making it harder for people to have a defensive firearm in the home simply means fewer people will have them and home invaders will be emboldened.  That handgun can be used by anyone in the home when necessary.  What if the wife was home and didn't have the training?  Would she be prohibited from using the pistol to defend herself?  "Gun Advocates" encourage training, but don't want it mandated.  

 

The stopping power is determined by shot placement.  Maybe his shots were off.  that's the point of the PSA.  Who needs a large cap mag?  Someone who misses a lot.

 

I don't think I would kick someone in the face when they are holding a handgun.

[EspressoBuzz]

What part of "well regulated" in the 2nd amendment didn't you understand?

 

That most perps wouldn't continue is a fact, for those that continue to advance that's where your responsibility as a "well regulated' gun owner fills the gap and helps protect you and your family.

[Mr VJP]

What do you think "well regulated" means?  If someone is less skilled with a defensive firearm, they should be denied the use of it by law?  What do you think will happen to them if they don't have a chance to try and defend themselves?

 

Do you know how effective LEO's are with their shots when confronted by an armed criminal?  They are highly "regulated".  Should they be patrolling without a firearm if they miss under fire?

 

Please show me the study showing the "fact" a perp will always run when confronting an armed victim.

 

One more question, if I may.  How many rounds do you think it should be legal to have in your home defense firearm?

 

Edited February 1, 2015 by Mr VJP

[The_Field_Ager]

 

 

That most perps wouldn't continue is a fact,

 

 

Except for ones high on meth or some other substance.

 

And then there was a recent case of a Vet with PTSD, who smashed his way into a home, despite verbal warnings that a gun was present. He was eventually shot, but survived. He had some kind of mental episode and was not in full control of his actions.

 

Jihadists are known for amping up on drugs and epinephrine before battle or suicide attacks so they can be shot but continue to advance. It's an ancient tactic. Might be coming to a neighborhood near you.

[noob52]

This is a PSA for mandatory gun handling course. First off study after study has proven that thieves would not continue to break in when shots have been already fired. Secondly the home owner if properly instructed about firearms use and home protection would;

A- know how many rounds he had and fired.

B- not be standing in the open like a target at the firing range.

C- would have had another clip ready to go since the law does not limit how many clips you can have.

This goes to the heart of what I've always felt. You can buy a handgun without any kind of education on its use and precautions but you cant drive a car without passing a test, and in some states repeating the test when a certain age is reached.

Why aren't more gun advocates for mandatory firearms education and/or certification?

PS the stopping power of the handgun in the video is much greater than the video shows, he didn't have to shoot him again he could have just kicked him in the face at that point.

Spoken like someone that has never been shot at...

[EspressoBuzz]

I was born in Red Hook Brooklyn, and lived there until I was 40. I have been shot at more than once, stuck with a knife and intentionally struck by a car while biking. I have lost 2 close friends to guns, and a few others to heroin. I watched as a small child (I think I was 9) from my third floor window on Summit St. as 2 cars pulled over on Columbia St, men jumped out and emptied there guns at each other, and jumped back in then sped away. Later Breslin wrote about it "The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight'. Crazy Joe Gallo was a regular on my block as were other mafia connected people some of which I would later find out we quite dangerous. Illegal guns could be had for a song back then. I grew up a wharf rat in that neighborhood and often wonder how I escaped the criminal fate of some of the people I grew up with. I have seen gun violence first had more than once and It has formed my opinions in later life. I am not anti gun, I am for responsible gun ownership.

Edited February 1, 2015 by EspressoBuzz

[ants]

This is a PSA for mandatory gun handling course. First off study after study has proven that thieves would not continue to break in when shots have been already fired. Secondly the home owner if properly instructed about firearms use and home protection would;

A- know how many rounds he had and fired.

B- not be standing in the open like a target at the firing range.

C- would have had another clip ready to go since the law does not limit how many clips you can have.

 

This goes to the heart of what I've always felt. You can buy a handgun without any kind of education on its use and precautions but you cant drive a car without passing a test, and in some states repeating the test when a certain age is reached.

 

Why aren't more gun advocates for mandatory firearms education and/or certification?

 

PS the stopping power of the handgun in the video is much greater than the video shows, he didn't have to shoot him again he could have just kicked  him in the face at that point.

When the $h!t hits the fan and your life, and your families lives are on  the line, ...when its up close and personal, the average person, no matter what training course they have gone through, will not know how many rounds they have fired, will stand in the open and probably not think to grab another "clip". When faced with an intruder actively coming at them, the average person will have tunnel vision and concentrate on the attacker only, and protecting themselves and family. 

I have seen it more than once.