growalot Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Every year I ask TFS to put their lime out early...I then start collecting it weekly... 3 40# bags weekly.... not cheap 12.00 week...I have few vises so not a big deal, less than what it cost to hit the car wash each week. ...Though they do have sales on and off. I have 12 bags already and will continue this right up until June..It gives me lime to put down earlier in new areas and lime to add to older woodland plots as a boost, woodland plots are harder to maintain PH.. and ones that I'm still building PH on. I build PH over time on all my plots and plant accordingly....Looking at more alfalfa this year.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfeathers Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Here's mine Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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growalot Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 I bet you have the gin to go with those too.....Your luckier than I, I'd bet... getting lime in this area is a farmers thing...They deliver the 10ton trucks filled and dump them then the farmers use their big spreaders to spread it with the tractors. It's the only way to get ag lime...My plots are small and interior wood trail plots...way too small even if I could spread that difficult ag lime...pelleted is the best for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfeathers Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 After that pathetic veggie yield in our small garden last year I should really check the ph. Watered constantly and I'm sure plants were stunted by the extreme heat we had all summer. But thinking a better ph will definitely help. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 I lime the garden well...the high ph helps with the tomato blight, that and landscape fabric to keep the soil from splashing up onto the lower leafs...Last year I dodged the bullet on that ended up with a crazy amount of tomatoes....I'll have tomato plants popping up all over this spring...but the deer did help eat all those extras... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I have a nice spot of loamy ground where the ph is running 5.9. Going to plant a couple hundred pounds of certified Kennebec potatoes this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 14 minutes ago, landtracdeerhunter said: I have a nice spot of loamy ground where the ph is running 5.9. Going to plant a couple hundred pounds of certified Kennebec potatoes this season. That's a lot of spuds !! You'll have to bring in a truckload of 'tater pickin' Mexicans to harvest 'em ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 11 minutes ago, Pygmy said: That's a lot of spuds !! You'll have to bring in a truckload of 'tater pickin' Mexicans to harvest 'em ! LOL, It depends how many eyes are in those taters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 hour ago, landtracdeerhunter said: LOL, It depends how many eyes are in those taters. Hehehehehe..." Don't bend over in the garden, Momma, them 'taters got EYES ! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailinghudson25 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I am low on hauling capacity. And I put one of my plots in a remote location. I buy a few bags at a time. Or, I bring up a few bags to my remote spot a few hours away. I put 3 or 4 bags in a garbage bag and leave it in the corner or the woods. Mice get in sometimes, but don't make a real mess out of it. Do not discredit powdered lime. If you need alot of ph increase, it can save money. Many a farmer or plotter has bought a pickup load and hand shoveled it out. I look at magnesium content when I buy. I do like pelletized for my remote places. I also builds plots for friends. I do have them buy a bag or two of pelletized to help spread clover seed or to mix up with borax to help clovers get some boron they need greatly. I do the same with fertilizer and seeds. I like different things in different areas. Dutch white clover for tree planting sites, hairy vetch for poor sandy soils, red clover for fast growth to choke out weeds in new plot sites. Or some winter rye for green manure in a poor soil site. The local place that sells by the lb at reasonable rates is 1.5 hours away from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailinghudson25 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Turkeyfeathers, A few things. Frequent watering reduces yeild. It makes them root poorly and not a deeper root. Also, when I do water. I do not use a water hose. The cold 50 deg F water shocks the root system, again reducing yield. I fill the water up in a tub and let it heat up. My aunt used to fill tons of 1 gallon milk jugs and let them sit all over the garden. Mulch helps a ton too with temperature and moisture retention. Also, that mulch improves the soil after it's tilled in. A winter crop helps in gardens too. I mentioned magnesium content in my above post. A bit of epsom slat where you plant tomatoes goes a long way. Hunters and basic gardeners think N-P-K. There's alot of other things plants need, even if in minute amounts. Like boron for clover, we are talking needing a 1lb an acre a year. But, the results give the answer..... Speaking of minerals other than the big ones. I prefer ash over lime. IT adds alot of those trace minerals plants and animals need. Do half the plants one way, then do the other differently. My friend was shocked when he water one with cold and water one with warm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 You're so right about that...I've been using Epsom salts in the garden for years and I have WR and red clover in the garden during the winter...I use 2 yr composted chicken manuer. Before that it was the goat barn cleanings. There are a few places you can buy micro nutrients for gardens and plots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 Quote A few things. Frequent watering reduces yield. I will water new seedlings the first week...then they had best make it on there own because I will not water unless there are real signs of stress. I'm a firm believer in mulch if the weather deems it. but also close companion planting.Tomatoes and climbing beans peas and spinach,garlic around about everything and great to have a border of garlic planted around the base of your fruit trees...that said Then they will get some sugar water sprayed over them at least 2x's in a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYBowhunter Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 On Tue Mar 14 2017 at 10:32 AM, growalot said: I bet you have the gin to go with those too.....Your luckier than I, I'd bet... getting lime in this area is a farmers thing...They deliver the 10ton trucks filled and dump them then the farmers use their big spreaders to spread it with the tractors. It's the only way to get ag lime...My plots are small and interior wood trail plots...way too small even if I could spread that difficult ag lime...pelleted is the best for me. I only use pellatized lime, the 40lb bags are manageable, fairly inexpensive and are much easier to spread by hand and with less waste. The bags make it easier for me as i have several food plots that are tucked away high and interior on my property. Easy to just toss 10 bags in the utv or tractor and chug them up the mountain. Would be a mess and alot of loss trying to do that with ag powder lime. Using a tractor with lime spreader in my hill country would be a BIG No No for most of my plots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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