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I see it like this..... Its the in your face culture thats driving all the turmoil in society. If 2 guys are holding hands walking down the street, 2 women kiss getting on the bus, some one wants to wear something different.... I dont care.. period... If someone shoves a sign in in my face or starts yelling at me for because the view something that I really dont care about or have an opinion on, the reaction they receive back is not because they happen to be x y or z its because I have my own world to contend with and dont have the time nor patients to deal with thiers.

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10 minutes ago, tuckersdaddy said:

If someone shoves a sign in in my face or starts yelling at me for because the view something that I really dont care about or have an opinion on, the reaction they receive back is not because they happen to be x y or z its because I have my own world to contend with and dont have the time nor patients to deal with thiers.


 

You better make the time, because the other side sure as hell is interested in re-shaping your world, whether you want them to or not.

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You better make the time, because the other side sure as hell is interested in re-shaping your world, whether you want them to or not.

heres the thing pap... most of these groups that are throwing thier lives in our faces are small fractions within there group...and the groups they are in are a small fraction of the totals. yes they are vocal, and pushed by a biased, agenda driven media (I refuse to call them the press) but as the elections since 2009 have proved the silent majority will have the final say. The shift back to common sense basics has stared, it wont be instant and will be fought, but it has started.. (as the supreme court today upheld the Trump travel ban) Now most americans dont care who the person walking down the street is sleeping with or which church they may or may not belong to, they are more concerned about thier own jobs, bills, meal, houses, kids, college... and the list goes on. The termoil created by the activist are part of the divide and concour group and when we allow the panic of tbis to set in, is when they win.

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58 minutes ago, tuckersdaddy said:

heres the thing pap... most of these groups that are throwing thier lives in our faces are small fractions within there group...and the groups they are in are a small fraction of the totals. yes they are vocal, 

Every major revolution in history was perpetrated by a small vocal group. It is the majority who simply don't want to be bothered by it all that allow revolutions to occur. Our Leftist academics are a tiny proportion of the nation, but due to the decades influence they have over all the students passing through their courses, they manage to do untold damage as most parents are willfully oblivious to garbage being taught them.

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Every major revolution in history was perpetrated by a small vocal group. It is the majority who simply don't want to be bothered by it all that allow revolutions to occur. Our Leftist academics are a tiny proportion of the nation, but due to the decades influence they have over all the students passing through their courses, they manage to do untold damage as most parents are willfully oblivious to garbage being taught them.

However for revolution to exsist the small vocal group must be preaching the sediments of the quiet majority... The quiet majority simply doesnt care about many of these social causes... As for the education system... change is headed there as well.. just not overnight. There are more teachers taking a conservitive view (at least where my kids go to school) then there were 10 years ago. The visionary change the world hippie group is retiring and those who are taking there place are finding they were not left with the same well built foundation that the people that they are replacing were left. It took us 50 yrs to get us to the situation we are in now but I do belive the corner been turned.. it just takes time to refocus on whats important.

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15 hours ago, tuckersdaddy said:


However for revolution to exsist the small vocal group must be preaching the sediments of the quiet majority... 

 

Not at all. Russia, France, China,the English Reformation, all used violence and military might to beat the population into submission. Take the English Protestant Reformation, as an example. It was taught for decades as being an organic uprising of the people against Rome. The historical reality was that the English were very attached to their Faith and culture and it took the British establishment generations to beat, kill and fine Catholicism out of the people. And it was Protestant Historians like William Cobbett who revealed the reality of this 'populist' movement as being anything but popular.

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Radicals know time is always on their side, they never stop trying and their beliefs are pushed through insidious encroachment, bit by bit, until they get the change they want.  When one of their own gets elected to a major position of power (Obama), the threat is real regardless of how many hold that radical opinion.  The last 8 years have proven this.

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Exactly. Radicals can hurt a nation terminally with only a few of them in positions of influence. Most Europeans despise the EU now but official EU migration policy is bringing the entire region to the edge of Doom. The people can do nothing other than rise up violently. This might be what happens in fact, soon enough

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Not at all. Russia, France, China,the English Reformation, all used violence and military might to beat the population into submission. Take the English Protestant Reformation, as an example. It was taught for decades as being an organic uprising of the people against Rome. The historical reality was that the English were very attached to their Faith and culture and it took the British establishment generations to beat, kill and fine Catholicism out of the people. And it was Protestant Historians like William Cobbett who revealed the reality of this 'populist' movement as being anything but popular.

Except the french and russian revolutions were a supressed majority uprising against a ruling majority. All revolution has a high expectation of violence and blood shed. Even here in the US when the southern revolution was suppressed by the north. The point Im trying to push across is this needs to be a last resort. Intensions going in are always noble and correct in the eyes of those who begin, but end results are never guarented, and rarely does the end come out as planned. So at this point we need to keep pushing the current system as it was intended.

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11 minutes ago, tuckersdaddy said:


Except the french and russian revolutions were a supressed majority uprising against a ruling majority. 
 

No ,they weren't. They were both foreign orchestrated and funded affairs that used bribery and foreign activists to get the dirty work done. In the case of France, fake news stories about bread shortages and Royal excess were used as vehicles of propaganda, just as we see the left doing today. Same world weary but effective tactics in use. The French revolutionaries employed their own version of Antifa, hiring thugs and criminals to foment riots. In the case of Russia locals refused to execute the Tsar and his family. Foreign Jews had to be brought in to do the deed.

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