New. CWD initiative....

[growalot]

Did you guys get the new DEC announcement on proposed regulations?

[Larry]

Just received this in an e-mail this the DEC’s plan to help stop the spend of CWD. Part of the plan is a BAN on urine base scents. Not sue if you can use scents from NY or they can be just sold outside of NY if pasted.

DEC Announces Comprehensive Plan to Minimize Risk of Chronic Wasting Disease to New York Deer and Moose Herds

 

Public Comments on the Draft Plan Accepted Through September 1

 

New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) Commissioner Basil Seggos today announced the release of a draft New York State Interagency CWD Risk Minimization Plan for public comment. The plan describes proposed regulatory changes and actions that DEC will take to minimize the risk of Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) entering or spreading in New York and was designed to protect both wild white-tailed deer and moose, as well as captive cervids including deer and elk held at enclosed facilities.

 

DEC biologists worked with New York State Department of Agriculture and Markets veterinarians and wildlife health experts at Cornell University to craft a comprehensive set of steps that are the most advanced CWD prevention strategies in the nation.

 

"New York is leading the way in protecting our valuable deer and moose herds," said Commissioner Seggos. "Not only does this horrible disease kill animals slowly, but wild white-tailed deer hunting represents a $1.5 billion industry in the state. Our CWD Risk Minimization Plan is in the best interest of all of us who care about wildlife and especially about the health of our wild white-tail deer herd. Governor Cuomo's commitment to high-quality hunting opportunities in New York also supports our taking action now to prevent a serious problem down the road."

 

Disease prevention is the only cost-effective way to keep CWD out of New York. Together with the State Department of Agriculture and Markets, New York is using cutting-edge science and common sense to ensure that everything possible is done to protect the state's wild deer and moose and captive deer and elk herds from CWD.

 

State Agriculture Commissioner Richard A. Ball said, "The Department's veterinarians and licensed veterinary technicians were responsible for the early detection of New York's only CWD incident and played critical roles in the response to the discovery of CWD in 2005. Our staff continue to work hard to control the risk of this serious disease and maintain our early detection system. This plan will further support these efforts to protect our wildlife."

 

CWD, an always fatal brain disease found in species of the deer family, was discovered in Oneida County wild and captive white-tailed deer in 2005. More than 47,000 deer have been tested statewide since 2002, and there has been no reoccurrence of the disease since 2005. New York is the only state to have eliminated CWD once it was found in wild populations. In North America, CWD has been found in 24 states and two Canadian provinces including neighboring Pennsylvania and Ohio.

 

CWD was first identified in Colorado in 1967 and is caused by infectious prions, which are misfolded proteins that cannot be broken down by the body's normal processes. They cause holes to form in the brain. Prions are found in deer parts and products including urine and feces; they can remain infectious in soil for years and even be taken up into plant tissues. CWD is in the same family of diseases, transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, as "mad cow" disease in cattle. Millions of cattle were destroyed because of mad cow disease in England and Europe in the 1990s and the disease also caused a fatal brain condition in some humans that ate contaminated beef products. Although there have been no known cases of CWD in humans, the Centers for Disease Control recommends that no one knowingly eat CWD-positive venison.

 

The proposed plan would streamline operations between DEC and the State Department of Agriculture and strengthen the state's regulations to prevent introduction of CWD. Some examples of the proposed changes include:

•Prohibit the importation of certain parts from any CWD-susceptible cervid taken outside of New York. Require that these animals be deboned or quartered and only the meat, raw hide or cape, and cleaned body parts, such as skull cap, antlers, jaws, and teeth, or finished taxidermy mounts be allowed for import into the state.

•Prohibit the retail sale, possession, use, and distribution of deer or elk urine and any products from CWD-susceptible animals that may contain prions, including glands, or other excreted material while allowing New York captive cervid facilities to continue to export deer urine outside of New York State.

•Maintain and reinforce the prohibition on the feeding of wild deer and moose in New York State.

•Provide DEC Division of Law Enforcement the necessary authority to enforce Department of Agriculture and Market's CWD regulations.

•Explore possible penalties or charges to defray costs associated with the removal of escaped cervids from the environment or the response to disease outbreaks.

•Require all taxidermists and deer processors (people who butcher deer for hire) to dispose of cervid waste and waste byproducts in compliance with 6 NYCRR Part 360, such as in a municipal landfill.

•Promotion of improved fencing methods for captive cervids to further prevent contact with wild deer or moose.

•Partner with the State Department of Agriculture and Markets to enhance captive cervid testing while continuing DEC's rigorous surveillance testing in hunter-harvested deer.

•Improve record keeping and data sharing between departments through joint inspections of captive cervid facilities, electronic reporting, and animal marking.

•Improve handling requirements, record keeping, and disease testing of wild white-tailed deer temporarily held in captivity for wildlife rehabilitation.

•Develop a communication plan and strategy to re-engage stakeholders, including captive cervid owners and the public, in CWD risk minimization measures and updates on CWD research.

 

The New York State Interagency CWD Risk Minimization Plan has had extensive outreach and vetting by sporting groups in the state to address the concerns of myriad stakeholders while maintaining the strength of purpose to protect the public and the environment. The plan updates reporting requirements, improves communication to stakeholders, and simplifies regulations to reduce confusion while protecting our natural resources.

 

The draft plan is available for public review on the DEC website. Written comments on the draft plan will be accepted through September 1, 2017. Comments can be submitted by e-mail ([email protected], subject: "CWD Plan") or by writing to NYSDEC, Bureau of Wildlife

[DirtTime]

I thought they passed this last year? Or was it some other scent attractant they banned?

[Larry]

I just pulled up the draft plan

cwdpreventionplan2017draft.pdf cwd.pdf

[Four Season Whitetail's]

Yeah like this is going to work. Kinda like we cant bait or mineral deer yet every store has 2 isles of the stuff wiped out during the season. First off there has never been any prions found in any urine and thats even out of CWD brain and node positive animals! Second Ny likes to brag that we dont have CWD and are the only state to beat the stuff then you would think that rather than have shelves full of urine for sale from known CWD states they would make it a law that Ny stores can only carry and sell Ny deer urine from Ny farms. That would make sense giving the state all the tax money and keep all the money for them and farmer in our state?  

We will still have 100's of choices of urine to use and most will still use it.

[Adkhunter1590]

Yeah like this is going to work. Kinda like we cant bait or mineral deer yet every store has 2 isles of the stuff wiped out during the season. First off there has never been any prions found in any urine and thats even out of CWD brain and node positive animals! Second Ny likes to brag that we dont have CWD and are the only state to beat the stuff then you would think that rather than have shelves full of urine for sale from known CWD states they would make it a law that Ny stores can only carry and sell Ny deer urine from Ny farms. That would make sense giving the state all the tax money and keep all the money for them and farmer in our state?  
We will still have 100's of choices of urine to use and most will still use it.

I thought the same thing when I read the part about the urines and scents. Seems pretty dumb to let NYers produce the stuff yet not sell it to their neighbors. If the deer being collected from had cwd it would need to be destroyed regardless of who was buying its piss. And your right about the people will still use whatever they want to use. Just like the baiting stuff. Field and streams bait section will be wiped out in the coming months.

[lungshot1971]

I purchased scent and urine from a guy in PA which is a CWD state. I contacted him and he responded that the deer urine is tested for CWD but glands are not being tested. He assured me that no CWD positive deer have been found within 100 miles of his farm. Now with that being said, the impact on the scent and urine industry would be huge if states began prohibiting sale of these products. I also contacted the DEC to find out if they are putting in place a program in NYS so hunters can have their harvest tested but haven't received a reply yet.


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[Four Season Whitetail's]

20 hours ago, lungshot1971 said:

I purchased scent and urine from a guy in PA which is a CWD state. I contacted him and he responded that the deer urine is tested for CWD but glands are not being tested. He assured me that no CWD positive deer have been found within 100 miles of his farm. Now with that being said, the impact on the scent and urine industry would be huge if states began prohibiting sale of these products. I also contacted the DEC to find out if they are putting in place a program in NYS so hunters can have their harvest tested but haven't received a reply yet.


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If Ny was even close to being smart they would allow the sale of only Ny urine off of Ny farms. They love to brag about being the only CWD free state then why not use it? The state would get all the tax money, the farmers in Ny state would be helped and we would be using 100% urine from 100% tested animals. 

All our sporting goods stores are now , and will continue to have their shelves packed with urine taken from CWD positive states and that is what people will continue to buy and use. Just like the mineral and attractant thing. Still see every shelf wiped out be the middle of the season. People know its a hoax and will continue to use the stuff legal or not.Do you see them stopping the harvest and cross country sales and even other county sales of Corn or Alfalfa? Something which is 100% proven to carry and pass on the CWD prions?

 

[gjs4]

Nothing made me laugh more in that NYODN news article than how NY is using advanced tactics. Wtf. Our deer biologist is about as advanced as a square tire. Some states have been battling this for years. Some biologist devote their life to it and still tout they don't know enough. King Jeremy is now saying we will,stop it by banning liquids urine. The montana mule deer herd that has the highest transmission rate has nothing to do with urine. Blithering idiot to which the sheep all follow.


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