Chef Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 Even fluted?Yea they only had 3 options and the light one was like 5 lbs Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 I mean 4lbs Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeGuy Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 You are making me want to build one not that I need another but looks fun. I will donate a hole in your head, cause you need one of those too. Sent from my LM-V405 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, TreeGuy said: I will donate a hole in your head, cause you need one of those too. Sent from my LM-V405 using Tapatalk 243 wssm. Woobooo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 Picked up the lower today, waiting on a few more parts and this build will be under way, probably starting next Thursday Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeGuy Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Picked up the lower today, waiting on a few more parts and this build will be under way, probably starting next Thursday Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It's against safe act to have the picture of "full auto" option on your lower .... Pictures kill people. Sent from my LM-V405 using Tapatalk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 It's against safe act to have the picture of "full auto" option on your lower .... Pictures kill people. Sent from my LM-V405 using TapatalkIs it really ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 Buffet tube spring and weight showed up Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeGuy Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Is it really ? Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLol. No. Your goodSent from my LM-V405 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 Ok guys so by tomorrow all the lower parts will be here and I will assemble the lower on Wednesday or Thursday.The big question I have now is barrel size I’m pretty sure I found the barrel I’m going with. They don’t make it in a 20 inch so my options are 18 and 22 I keep going back and forth let’s hear your input Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 40 minutes ago, Chef said: Ok guys so by tomorrow all the lower parts will be here and I will assemble the lower on Wednesday or Thursday. The big question I have now is barrel size I’m pretty sure I found the barrel I’m going with. They don’t make it in a 20 inch so my options are 18 and 22 I keep going back and forth let’s hear your input Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Weight difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 The 22 is likely to add some FPS. How critical is that vs the convenience of a shorter barrel and weight savings. I would likely go 18 but 224 is a legit long range chambering so if you plan to regularly shoot past 500yds the extra 4” may be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 Weight difference?18 inch =2.3 lbs22 inch = 2.55 lbs Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, Chef said: 18 inch =2.3 lbs 22 inch = 2.55 lbs Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Not enough to matter. Convenience of a shorter rifle vs ringing out all performance possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 Not enough to matter. Convenience of a shorter rifle vs ringing out all performance possible. Yea I just can’t make up my mind I seriously might just flip a coin, I’m thinking 18 maybe be it but at that point it almost defeats the purpose of the 224Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Chef said: Yea I just can’t make up my mind I seriously might just flip a coin, I’m thinking 18 maybe be it but at that point it almost defeats the purpose of the 224 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk My 224 is 18. Shoots well. But yes I doubt I will be shooting it 1000yds which really is the intent. Long range shooting from an AR15 platform. that said, 90g fusion might just be good juju on deer. Edited February 18, 2020 by moog5050 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gencountyzeek Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I run a 22" grendel. Its heavy, i carried it yote hunting for 1.5 years, still do occasionally. 18 would definitely make a better hunting setup but my intentions were long range shooting, and occasional hunting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeGuy Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 16" is more than enough to keep a bullet moving fast. Also will be more than accurate out to any distance you can send it. Weight and length when walking the woods can make a big difference. My 16" barrel is all I need and more. If I had to do it again, I'd get another 16" or there are a few stainless pencils I'd get. I def prefer stainless over blue. Except Moogs, his "blued" barrels look really cool and are extremely light. LolSo to answer your question, if you have narrowed it down to 18 or 22, get whatever is cheaper and put the money towards glass. Sent from my LM-V405 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 So fu(k it I’m going to get the 18, if I decide I’m really not happy I’ll just build another lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, Chef said: So fu(k it I’m going to get the 18, if I decide I’m really not happy I’ll just build another lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk For regular use hunting I think you are making the right decision 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 For regular use hunting I think you are making the right decisionI agree, I can’t wait for this thing to be done so I can go play with it. If I finish the lower Thursday which I’m sure I will I’m gunna go to camp and put it on my 5.56 upper for some fun.I think Tree guy is right and deciding what glass to get will be a lot of fun too Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 Ok so I went with the 18 inch criterion barrel, with a JP industries headspaced bolt and a JP industries light weight bolt Carrier group!All that’s led to buy is the upper hand guard and gas system...Well that and a optic but I’m sure there will be a lengthy discussion on that one Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) On 2/17/2020 at 7:21 PM, moog5050 said: Not enough to matter. Convenience of a shorter rifle vs ringing out all performance possible. On 2/17/2020 at 7:26 PM, moog5050 said: My 224 is 18. Shoots well. But yes I doubt I will be shooting it 1000yds which really is the intent. Long range shooting from an AR15 platform. that said, 90g fusion might just be good juju on deer. that would be my question. At the ranges you intend to shoot, assuming under 500. If weight isn't a factor, does the length really matter? Is accuracy greatly improved or no? And if it isn't, it seems the agility of the shorter barrel not getting hung up on stuff while hiking and hunting would be the true advantage. Edited February 19, 2020 by Belo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, Belo said: that would be my question. At the ranges you intend to shoot, assuming under 500. If weight isn't a factor, does the length really matter? Is accuracy greatly improved or no? And if it isn't, it seems the agility of the shorter barrel not getting hung up on stuff while hiking and hunting would be the true advantage. length does not affect accuracy from everything I read. It usually will impact speed/muzzle velocity, but not always. And some barrels even from the same manufacturer are faster than others. My creed barrel is very fast compared to what I (and the scope manufacturer) expected from a 20" barrel. Like 150fps faster than estimated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 well that doesn't make sense or rifles wouldn't have longer barrels... I'm not expert but that just goes against everything i've ever known haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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