ncountry Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Friday , I was driving down the rd and get a call. I pull over and am talking on the phone through the trucks bluetooth. A car pulls up in front of me , and out gets a young black man(or whatever the politically correct term is). He walks up to my window.( note: I'm kind of a rough looking bearded character ..). A little timidly(pretty sure he was a college kid ), but very friendly and asks if I was ok or needed help.. This is getting pretty uncommon today, no matter what color you are.Nobody cares about or takes care of their neighbors anymore..I wish it wasn't an important call, so I could have talked longer to this once guy.. A couple hrs later I'm working in this "French guys bathroom" .I cant hardley understand him as he is chatting right away ,looking over my shoulder. I ask him how long he's been in the US and he says most of 45 years..he's been here since he was 20... He and I agree politically. Not a Trump fan , but dont wanna see our country turn the direction the democrats want to lead us down.. He has worked in every region of the world and it's his opinion that this is by far the best country in the world and probably the last...Especialy for those who want to take responsibility for their own life.. I enjoyed listening to his stories about Europe, South America, Middle Aast, Africa, etc.. Needless to say my job took me an hr longer than it should have .. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Friday , I was driving down the rd and get a call. I pull over and am talking on the phone through the trucks bluetooth. A car pulls up in front of me , and out gets a young black man(or whatever the politically correct term is). He walks up to my window.( note: I'm kind of a rough looking bearded character ..). A little timidly(pretty sure he was a college kid ), but very friendly and asks if I was ok or needed help.. This is getting pretty uncommon today, no matter what color you are.Nobody cares about or takes care of their neighbors anymore..I wish it wasn't an important call, so I could have talked longer to this once guy.. A couple hrs later I'm working in this "French guys bathroom" .I cant hardley understand him as he is chatting right away ,looking over my shoulder. I ask him how long he's been in the US and he says most of 45 years..he's been here since he was 20... He and I agree politically. Not a Trump fan , but dont wanna see our country turn the direction the democrats want to lead us down.. He has worked in every region of the world and it's his opinion that this is by far the best country in the world and probably the last...Especialy for those who want to take responsibility for their own life.. I enjoyed listening to his stories about Europe, South America, Middle Aast, Africa, etc.. Needless to say my job took me an hr longer than it should have .. And what direction is it you think the Dems want to go Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncountry Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Chef said: And what direction is it you think the Dems want to go Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I dont " think" the direction they want to go is more government.. More "help" for those in "need".. more..more......etc...They or I guess maybe me. I'm still a registered democrat (haven't officially switched yet) tell us that's what they want to do.. I'm not a big conspiracy theorist. Most people I know who are in government and are liberal honestly believe they are helping.. My opinion of most liberals is that they have yet to experience life enough or just go through life being naive.. I was both once.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 I dont " think" the direction they want to go is more government.. More "help" for those in "need".. more..more......etc...They or I guess maybe me. I'm still a registered democrat (haven't officially switched yet) tell us that's what they want to do.. I'm not a big conspiracy theorist. Most people I know who are in government and are liberal honestly believe they are helping.. My opinion of most liberals is that they have yet to experience life enough or just go through life being naive.. I was both once..And you don’t think trump is dangerous as hell Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncountry Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 Honestly, he scares the %$%% out of me. My opinion is he's a jerk(putting it politely),crook , and is in this for himself only.I would absolutely love another choice...But if we give in to this socialist movement there will be no walking it back.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 2 hours ago, ncountry said: Friday , I was driving down the rd and get a call. I pull over and am talking on the phone through the trucks bluetooth. A car pulls up in front of me , and out gets a young black man(or whatever the politically correct term is). He walks up to my window.( note: I'm kind of a rough looking bearded character ..). A little timidly(pretty sure he was a college kid ), but very friendly and asks if I was ok or needed help.. This is getting pretty uncommon today, no matter what color you are.Nobody cares about or takes care of their neighbors anymore..I wish it wasn't an important call, so I could have talked longer to this once guy.. A couple hrs later I'm working in this "French guys bathroom" .I cant hardley understand him as he is chatting right away ,looking over my shoulder. I ask him how long he's been in the US and he says most of 45 years..he's been here since he was 20... He and I agree politically. Not a Trump fan , but dont wanna see our country turn the direction the democrats want to lead us down.. He has worked in every region of the world and it's his opinion that this is by far the best country in the world and probably the last...Especialy for those who want to take responsibility for their own life.. I enjoyed listening to his stories about Europe, South America, Middle Aast, Africa, etc.. Needless to say my job took me an hr longer than it should have .. You wouldn’t be the only conservative who can’t bring himself to vote for Trump again: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/jeff-flake-joe-biden-more-conservative-than-trump-on-core-issues https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/politics/john-mccain-biden-trump.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncountry Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said: You wouldn’t be the only conservative who can’t bring himself to vote for Trump again: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/jeff-flake-joe-biden-more-conservative-than-trump-on-core-issues https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/politics/john-mccain-biden-trump.html I just dont see it though.. Biden already let the liberals into his camp...12 years ago I might have voted for Biden over Trump.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 hours ago, ncountry said: I just dont see it though.. Biden already let the liberals into his camp...12 years ago I might have voted for Biden over Trump.... The Democratic Party, imperfect as it is, is on a totally different league than this fascist and incompetent leftover version of the Republican Party. Fear of socialism/anarchy is a lame talking point that simply does not hold water. I don’t expect you to embrace the Democratic platform but there are simply too many conservative outlets disavowing Trump and his party to ignore if you consider yourself a true conservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncountry Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Versatile_Hunter said: The Democratic Party, imperfect as it is, is on a totally different league than this fascist and incompetent leftover version of the Republican Party. Fear of socialism/anarchy is a lame talking point that simply does not hold water. I don’t expect you to embrace the Democratic platform but there are simply too many conservative outlets disavowing Trump and his party to ignore if you consider yourself a true conservative. Spoken, like an I intelligent educated person who's never really been poor or truly struggled in their life....ha. ha. Or maybe the opposite side of the spectrum who enjoys the handouts... Seriously. I dont mean to throw shade.... When I have political discussions with friends these stereotypes seem to hold true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolc123 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) Do you believe that Trump/Pence have done as good of a job dealing with ISIS as Obama/Biden ? Were you upset that Trump moved the US embasy in Israel to Jerusalem ? 1 hour ago, Versatile_Hunter said: The Democratic Party, imperfect as it is, is on a totally different league than this fascist and incompetent leftover version of the Republican Party. Fear of socialism/anarchy is a lame talking point that simply does not hold water. I don’t expect you to embrace the Democratic platform but there are simply too many conservative outlets disavowing Trump and his party to ignore if you consider yourself a true conservative. Edited August 30, 2020 by wolc123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 hour ago, ncountry said: Spoken, like an I intelligent educated person who's never really been poor or truly struggled in their life....ha. ha. Or maybe the opposite side of the spectrum who enjoys the handouts... Seriously. I dont mean to throw shade.... When I have political discussions with friends these stereotypes seem to hold true... That’s another caricature that you need to examine. We all fall victim to the fundamental attribution error at times, it’s human nature. You may want a more limited government role (except in policing women’s bodies) but this isn’t an ideological foundation that guides Trump and it’s exactly why so much of the Republican Party has rejected him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 hour ago, wolc123 said: Do you believe that Trump/Pence have done as good of a job dealing with ISIS as Obama/Biden ? Were you upset that Trump moved the US embasy in Israel to Jerusalem ? Obama didn’t make many friends on the left by starting the drone program and racking up quite the body count. Yes, Obama/Biden foreign policy and use of military was exponentially better than Trump/Pence. Just listen to the military leadership. Foreign leaders are on record with our Republican leadership voicing reluctance to engage with Trump because of his instability and incompetence. He has repeatedly leaked sensitive information on Twitter and during his meandering rants. Trump has publically rejected intelligence findings and supported our geopolitical rivals. If Fox New doesn’t cover this, just look at the record number of US generals and military leaders (many of whom have a lifelong conservative track record) that have publically endorsed the Democratic candidate. This is a big deal. I will say, Trump is a master marketer. He coins a concise soundbite and bombards us with it. Somehow folks are still talking about hydroxychloroquine when all the scientific evidence points to its ineffectiveness and associated risks. It’s the same story with ISIS – Trump continues to repeat that we were losing against ISIS and because of him we are now winning. This is a fantasy, but just as he can’t talk about COVID without mention hydroxycholorquine, he can’t bring up foreign affairs without saying that he has beaten ISIS. If you hear something often enough, it becomes easy to believe. To be clear, our economy was booming and had been on a steady rising phase under Obama and ISIS territory had been steadily reduced during his administration. Trump came in and, as the brilliant (and deceptive) marketer that he is, he’s convinced too many people that the Obama economy was in recession and that ISIS strongholds were vast. Both of these are fiction. https://www.factcheck.org/2019/11/trumps-isis-claim-goes-to-the-dogs/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncountry Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said: That’s another caricature that you need to examine. We all fall victim to the fundamental attribution error at times, it’s human nature. You may want a more limited government role (except in policing women’s bodies) but this isn’t an ideological foundation that guides Trump and it’s exactly why so much of the Republican Party has rejected him. See... I was right on the 1st part..... Pontificate much? For the record I did vote for Obama the 1st time.. AIF.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, ncountry said: See... I was right on the 1st part..... Pontificate much? For the record I did vote for Obama the 1st time.. AIF.. You don't have to be on a trust fund or on welfare to be logical... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolc123 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Versatile_Hunter said: Obama didn’t make many friends on the left by starting the drone program and racking up quite the body count. Yes, Obama/Biden foreign policy and use of military was exponentially better than Trump/Pence. Just listen to the military leadership. Foreign leaders are on record with our Republican leadership voicing reluctance to engage with Trump because of his instability and incompetence. He has repeatedly leaked sensitive information on Twitter and during his meandering rants. Trump has publically rejected intelligence findings and supported our geopolitical rivals. If Fox New doesn’t cover this, just look at the record number of US generals and military leaders (many of whom have a lifelong conservative track record) that have publically endorsed the Democratic candidate. This is a big deal. I will say, Trump is a master marketer. He coins a concise soundbite and bombards us with it. Somehow folks are still talking about hydroxychloroquine when all the scientific evidence points to its ineffectiveness and associated risks. It’s the same story with ISIS – Trump continues to repeat that we were losing against ISIS and because of him we are now winning. This is a fantasy, but just as he can’t talk about COVID without mention hydroxycholorquine, he can’t bring up foreign affairs without saying that he has beaten ISIS. If you hear something often enough, it becomes easy to believe. To be clear, our economy was booming and had been on a steady rising phase under Obama and ISIS territory had been steadily reduced during his administration. Trump came in and, as the brilliant (and deceptive) marketer that he is, he’s convinced too many people that the Obama economy was in recession and that ISIS strongholds were vast. Both of these are fiction. https://www.factcheck.org/2019/11/trumps-isis-claim-goes-to-the-dogs/ You linked a liberal "fact-check" article which I wonder if you actually read. Did you get to the part that said that the recapture of ISIS territory accelerated under Trump, and the amount captured under Obama was 33 % of that under Trump ? Thanks for linking it anyhow because it reinforces what I already knew and conclusively indicated that ISIS would prefer Biden as President. Also, you did not reply to my question about the US embassy move to Jerusalem. The bottom line is that God will decide who wins the election, and your and other liberal efforts to distort the truth are meaningless. Biden has turned his back on Christianity. His pro abortion stance, exceeded only by his running mate, is a solid indicator of that. One last question for you : Do you believe that new life begins at conception or at birth ? You might not realize that you have put yourself in a boxed canyon, but I will pray that you recover soon. Edited August 30, 2020 by wolc123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 6 hours ago, wolc123 said: You linked a liberal "fact-check" article which I wonder if you actually read. Did you get to the part that said that the recapture of ISIS territory accelerated under Trump, and the amount captured under Obama was 33 % of that under Trump ? Thanks for linking it anyhow because it reinforces what I already knew and conclusively indicated that ISIS would prefer Biden as President. Also, you did not reply to my question about the US embassy move to Jerusalem. The bottom line is that God will decide who wins the election, and your and other liberal efforts to distort the truth are meaningless. Biden has turned his back on Christianity. His pro abortion stance, exceeded only by his running mate, is a solid indicator of that. One last question for you : Do you believe that new life begins at conception or at birth ? You might not realize that you have put yourself in a boxed canyon, but I will pray that you recover soon. I chose factcheck because it’s analysis is balanced and I hoped it wouldn’t trigger too much defensiveness in you. ...Surely God will choose Biden, a man of faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolc123 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said: I chose factcheck because it’s analysis is balanced and I hoped it wouldn’t trigger too much defensiveness in you. ...Surely God will choose Biden, a man of faith I hear only crickets on the embassy move or the life start question. Do you plan on moving to Canada after Trump wins in November ? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, wolc123 said: I hear only crickets on the embassy move or the life start question. Do you plan on moving to Canada after Trump wins in November ? Lord, forgive wolc123, for he knows not what he says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolc123 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Versatile_Hunter said: Lord, forgive wolc123, for he knows not what he says Congrats, you have been "Wolc'd" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Congrats, you have been "Wolc'd" Stay Wolc peopleSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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