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Google how much money states get from the federal government for so called CWD research and for how many years and then look what that research has came up with year after year after year. And then use your god givin common sense and look at what this so called big bad disease has done anywhere in any state. You will answer your own question. I will give you a very simple one. If this disease is really as bad as they want you to believe it is and they 100% know from their research that corn and alfalfa and other crops allow the prions to be instilled in them from the soil into their stems and corn why do they not stop the movements and sales of these crops from any CWD positive states? These crops are sold at every feed store, every Tractor Supply or Runnings or anywhere else the stuff is sold in fact moving the CWD across the country. We are allowed to hand feed animals CWD ourselves. That won’t be halted because it’s billions of dollars in sales. These crops are not just sold in this country but every country. All the same prions we are talking here that are involved in Scrapies in sheep and CWD in deer. Mind you that sheep farms can farm right thru Scrapies, even positive farms and move animals to other farms across the country and sell meat to meat markets that hit stores all across the country with just an ear tag and a vet Health certificate… which is just a visual check Now when it comes to Whitetails a farmer has the be 5 years CWD tested before they can even be certified to sell animals… meaning they have to raise and feed their animals for 5 years and killing 10% of their numbers every year just to test to see if they have it and every natural death to see if they have it. All the while mind you of not being able to bring in any income at all from those animals for 5 years. 1000’s of dollars in feed, health and everyday care for 5 years. I could go on for hours here but any person with half a brain can see the big picture when it comes to CWD and its uses when it’s agenda driving.

FS you always say follow the money. Follow who and what money? Biologist that just want to stir the pot and keep a livelihood? Just asking.....

I am always amazed at the capabilities of these ATVs. I have pulled some pretty large logs with mine, and compared to the HP of some of the machines available today, mine is just a baby. One of those pictures above shows the ability to climb the snow piles to push snow over the top and make room for more snow piling. Don't try doing that with a 4WD pickup truck....lol. I have the ability to turn around right in the middle of the driveway, or push snow sideways anywhere in the driveway. It has maneuverability that no truck has. I do not know the capabilities of the bigger side-by-sides in the maneuverability category. The only drawback is in wet snow depth. But I have found that a lot of trucks have limits too. One storm that I couldn't even begin to clear was a 36" dump in March back in the early 70's. Nobody with a truck would even discuss it. It took a payloader to clear a skinny one lane trail up the 1000' of driveway. Everything has its limits, but there has only been a few times when I had to call in outside help for snow removal. I hope I have not jinxed myself now.

lol. You spoke volumes… Researcher…. There you have it. Follow the money trail Did you listen to one minute of that podcast? My question to you and I don’t give two shits what you do for a living…. Prove the words that I have spoken on this subject above is wrong and not in fact the facts!!!!

You got any idea what I do for a living lol? Of course you do. I was at one time pretty active on this board, and I've never hidden my profession. But then and now, your yapping is enough to set the most stable of nerves jingling. If I thought there was ANY chance of you admitting for one second that you'd made a mistake, I'd go ahead and list the various reasons that you need to THINK BETTER. But I'd be wasting time and space. Tell you what. You promise to quit posting on this thread...you don't even have to admit I'm right, just back off for once...and I will provide you with six salient points, details, and resources that counter your claims VERY EFFECTIVELY. From perspectives that incorporate scientific, epidemiologic, molecular, agricultural, and economic arguments. Otherwise, continue to reside in your fantasy world where you safely ignore any opinions that don't conform to your preconceived beliefs and obviously agenda-driven stances. I don't think you're up to the challenge. I'm all for throwing down, that's literally what scientists do for a living as they try to defend and/or counter their models, and as an Alzheimer's researcher in an age where the landscape is rapidly shifting as we make real advances in our understanding of the disease, I'm literally engaged in contesting ideas about neuroscience on a daily basis. But I've been down this road before with you. You'd argue with a poster on a wall if it said something you don't like.

This states actions never surprises me anymore.

Left a phone number for the owner … I put this up here to help…

The powers that be will not accept a blood test or an anal test as proof that they don’t have CWD. Some states actually accept that a lymph node positive is a real positive when it’s not. The only true way to know an animal has CWD prions is from the brain stem. Hence all the zombie deer craziness and such. You want to hear the best one? A deer farm has to Tb test their animals every 3 years with a test that is in the high 80% level correct and they accept that as a deer that does not have TB. Well the CWD test is also in the 80’s also but they will not accept that a deer that does not have CWD. lol. With CWD and Whitetails all one has to do is follow the money trail. We are now breeding CWD out of farmed Whitetails just like they bred z Scrapies out of sheep. Nothing is 100% successful so there will always be a deer fall thru the cracks and become positive just as there are still sheep that do but the day will come when there won’t be much CWD behind wire where it will be loaded in the wild. The funnier thing is that the states that tried to use CWD to shut down farms only improved their business because they scared people so bad about the harmless disease that more people are now filling their freezers with animals from behind fences. Tested CWD free animals.

I thought this was the case as well until just recently. I listened to a Huntr podcast with Daniel Storm, a Wisconsin DNR employee, where he described a method that allows them to do testing for CWD on live animals. Take the rest of the information in the podcast as you see fit, but I found that part of the conversation to be quite surprising based on information that I had heard and read elsewhere (i.e. you can only test dead animals for CWD).

Well, chum the water a bit, maybe someone will call Anthony. Robby

Years ago my wife bought me a Kawasaki Prairie 700 for Christmas because she was afraid I'd have a heart attack dragging deer out of the woods. Well, it came with a snow plow as part of the deal. That March we had one of those storms that drops a heavy wet snow, probably 18" of it. I got my two wheel drive truck stuck, my wife Jeep Cherokee stuck as well, so I figure what the heck, dig out the plow attachment and hooked it up, pretty easily too. My driveway was about 350' long and that machine walked through it like a Dodge Ram on steroids! I couldn't believe it, and actually got to work on time. Our driveway now is about 400' long and I wouldn't be without it! Robby

Yup. And now the talk of credit cards being used to track ammo purchases. Gotta love this state. Cash and Vermont for all your ammo needs. Great views on the drive and great selections on the shelves. Win-Win.

Yeah. Kinda like dealing with the facts. It’s even fun to listen to others useless banter at times on subjects they obviously are totally clueless about. Till next time!

I bought something similar after I went down in my own driveway and cracked a few ribs last month. At my age things don't mend as fast as they used to. I figure the few seconds it takes to slip those things on beats the days and days of sheer agony. Robby

I sure would like to see some winning. This is like the death of a thousand cuts. Robby

Insurance policy for new gun purchases! https://www.newyorkstatefirearmsassociation.org/action/2503p_em/