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At least one of the old timers here admits that this place is doomed. The few other regulars keep telling us that it's thriving and better than ever. LOL

burmjohn bailed on this site years ago! He took members money for merch, and bailed on that too! I know for fact, that the owner from "the other NY outdoors forum" tried unsuccessfully to purchase this site for over two years! He wanted to keep this place going!! With the old, and new members coming, like it used to be, to keep it growing.. But again burmjohn bailed! So.....this place will certainly die a slow painful death, like a gut shot deer, with no chance of living on. There are still some guy's here that I have huge respect for!! Doc is surely among them. I check in here periodically just to see what's up. But rarely post anymore, because I was made to feel unwelcome by some members here, because I joined the "other" site too. Like so many others did from here. So be it. I don't think I'm missed much here. But I can guarantee, that if anyone joins the"other" site, they will be welcomed!!! It's growing over there!! With new members, and ideas coming in all the time! And even free give aways to members from the owner!! Imagine that here?? And you can still come here too, you don't have to give this up. I haven't.. Like I said, some great members here that I've shared ideas with for years. And value their content and experience greatly!! As a chosen moderator on the "otherside" I will be among the first to welcome you!! It never was 'us against them' for me. It doesn't have to be for those holdouts here either. You can do both, and enjoy getting answers to your posts again

I've seen bucks with their antlers well into March. Many keep saying that bucks have already shed by the new "family" hunt week between Christmas and New Year thus they are against the season. Yeah, maybe a few have but I think the majority of bucks still carry them for a good while after that.

So this forum is indeed doomed to a slow death. With no new members coming in to replace those who die or leave, the numbers will continue to dwindle, with the only new members being hackers. That would explain the lack of participation here. I remember all those newbies that used to post and respond to posts back in the days when this was a growing forum. Now it is just a handful of us old-timers that do any posting, and any responding to the few posts that we have. That is sad. I've been here 15 years, but I wonder how much longer my membership continues to make any sense. Without Owner participation, this forum is doomed. Why it hasn't been turned over to someone else, I can't imagine. For the Owner to just simply abandon the site and all the people in it, seems like a most irresponsible act that is a slap in the face to all the hunters that have counted on this form of communication between outdoorsmen and women.

This guy still holding horns. 1st pict was Dec now into Feb still going strong!

People do have a way of coming up with new actions in firearms, this Alcor Push Button is something different, will it become mainstream? Al

I know this isn't going to be popular. What ever the reason bumjohn abandoned the site, the fact is only he can authorize new members, and he hasn't let anyone in for quite sometime. Members got frustrated and a few even tried purchasing the site, including the owner of "the site we can't name" or get banned, with no response either way from the owner. More and more members left here looking for something else. Most got a "good riddance" and you won't be missed goodbye. Lots of fantastic data, and information given out over the years. It would be a shame to see it go dark. But now, realistically, this site is a group of guys in a chatroom not a forum.

Checked out Brownville the other day and I see most of the Bucks have dropped their antlers, the big boy they call Vincent is still wearing his rack. Al

Some of the alleged members joined 21 hours ago . Odd that so many joined at the same time . one of them has a hunting location listed as Serbia .