Doc

It's true. They have not changed their minds about eliminating all guns. They have just changed tactics and have found it much easier to accomplish their goals in a piece-by-piece fashion. Magazines, ammo, certain rifles ..... it is so much easier to turn gun owner against gun owner to achieve their gun elimination one piece at a time. Let's face it, that's what all this action against the so-called assault rifles is all about. Many gun owners have no use for those guns and are easily talked into joining the antis in demanding elimination and confiscation of those rifles. I've seen it here on the pages of this forum. I've seen those that would pacify the anti-gun lobby by sacrificing modern sporting rifles. And it is simply based on the fact that it is the "other guys rifle, not mine". All this talk about magazines is the same kind of "divide and conquer" tactic. I think it works, and that the anti-gun people have stumbled onto a successful tactic that will get them where they want to get if we don't start to smarten up. The NRA has been criticized for their "not-give-an-inch" stance. Well, anyone who's paying attention to todays anti-gun techniques might just catch on to the fact that it is piece-by-piece confiscation that has made the biggest strides for the anti-gunners in recent years.

I agree. I've said it so many times, I am beginning to sound like a broken record. You don't have to agree with every statement and issue of a advocacy group in order to have huge value in your membership. Look at the over-all package. You will never find a single organization that provides all views that you can buy into 100%. But if you start avoiding all organizations that don't fit all your views exactly, you basicly will find yourself without any representation or influence at a governmental level, while the opposition makes huge strides by being well financed, and well organized and no where near as fragmented as hunters and gun owners seem to be.

To be honest with you, I have never really even thought a whole lot about it. My guns are usually stored with the action open, i.e. bolt open, pump slide slid back, etc. My experience with designing mechanisms that use springs is that being stored in a loaded position does not effect their life if the initial material selection, design criteria and heat treatment is proper. They are designed to be under load, and they do not rot, or weaken with age unless they were not designed properly to start with. Springs react to heat, excessive fatigue through unplanned cycling, corrosion, and other things that attack metals, but unless you have exceeded the elastic limits of the material, they can stay in a loaded condition forever without ever changing their properties.

Actually, I don't usually do any scouting when the snow is covering the ground. Right now we have quite a bit more than a foot of snow, and deer are doing whatever they need to do to survive. This causes them to travel in random ways, and generally show up in a lot of places you will never see them in hunting conditions. If I based any hunting decisions on what I am seeing right now, I'd be hunting under our bird feeder next fall .... lol. If we should get a significant thaw that exposes the ground again, I may wander around looking for trails, rubs, scrapes, and other signs of last fall's activity. That can be useful info because a lot of that repeats from year to year. But what is going on right now is way to random and patternless to be of any use other than to perhaps see what deer are in your area. And actually, as winter wears on, even that little piece of info won't really be all that reliable as yarding and winter mini-migrations take place.

One thing that should be understood is that protecting gun manufacturers is protecting our 2nd amendment rights. Needless to say the gun manufacturers are a prime target of the antis and also are in a constant struggle with the gun-banning contingent of our legal system. One of the strategies of the antis is to bombard the manufacturers with lawsuits, regulations, and other activities that cause the manufacturers to defend themselves and pass on the costs of those defenses to us .... the gun owners.

I have the RCBS version of the Lee priming tool. It works real slick. And it's fast. I used to use the priming tube on my press, but this thing seems to be so much easier.

Ok, you win in the poverty contest ..... lol. It's a good thing that computers and internet are free ... eh? (just kidding). Anyway, I didn't want to have you provide a financial statement, and if your budget does not include money for NRA, then that is a situation that you have to manage in what ever way is best for you. It sounds like you may have more pressing priorities than your 2nd amendment rights.

Everytime you buy bullet making components, get 2 or 3 times more than you really need and stash some of them away. You're young enough so that you should be able to develop a pretty sizeable inventory after a few years. I have a lifetime supply of everything that I use.

Ha-ha-ha, some of you guys wouldn't have a thing to say if you couldn't include that word "elitist". That is getting to be the most over-used and mis-used word on this forum. That's intended to be a discussion stopper, but really has no meaning here anymore. But anyway I love your psychic powers to see into my finances. I hate to wreck your little convenient stereo-type, but I am living on a fixed income that is well under the annual income that most people live on these days. But instead of whining about it and expecting everyone else to carry the load for me, I do budget enough money to spend the paltry amount of NRA membership fees to an organization that fights for our 2nd amendment rights in ways that no individual citizen can.

I think I would like to see some evidence of these "NRA anti-hunting stances" rather than just taking your word for it. The NRA makes a pretty big target for the anti-gun forces because the last thing they want to see is the gun owners united and organized. I think you are trying your best to help them out in that effort.

There you go ..... "Let someone else do it". That's a pretty popular attitude these days.

Oh, they will be moving this crap along quite quickly. They have come to understand that the time to make the most gains in restricting gun owner's rights is as close to a gun-related tragedy as possible. They are becoming expert at using these tragedies to push their agenda. And part of that is high-balling these things through as closely to one of these opportunities as possible. Unfortunately none of the wacky laws will address the real problems, but instead will focus on extending the, already proven to be ineffective, attacks against law abiding gun owners.

I don't know about gift cards and such, but there is no doubt in my mind that the most effective thing to do to safeguard our view of the 2nd amendment issues is to join and support the NRA. As long as we remain a fractured faction with everybody running off in different directions, we will continue to be at the mercy of the lunatic gun regulators. They have the position of power both in the media and in the government, and unless we back the only power base that we have, the future is pretty easy to predict. So those of you who are always saying, "someday I will", ........ Now is the time.

Huh??

Frankly, I think you have come upon a great idea. A lot of landowners would like to put in some plots, but simply don't have the equipment, time or knowledge to do it right. So the market is there .... I believe. But you have certainly come up with the questions as to how to make the business profitable. Unfortunately, the only ones that could give you reliable info on that would be somebody that is already doing it. I cannot begin to imagine the variety of challenges that you might face. My thought is that your price might be such that it would shock most prospective customers. However, I want to wish you the best of luck in your venture. I'm sure that given enough thought, you can make a success out of it.

So I guess if you say that often enough, there's nothing to worry about. The fact is that the atmosphere lately is exactly right for massive public support for these kinds of radical laws. The anti-gun fanatics have been waiting for an event that was packed with sufficient emotion to successfully push their agenda. They now feel the time is right. I see no need or purpose for complacency.

And this within a city with the most draconian gun laws in the country.

This is the most important point to remember now that all of the anti-gunners have come out of the bushes. Those that think the answer is to ban something, should be choking on that fact if they had one ounce of integrity within their rhetoric. But as Mr. Scott is trying to point out, there is no integrity involved in the symbolism of calling for gun bans and other intellectually lazy solutions. He has accurately identified the real problems, and the solutions should be aimed at those instead of inanimate wood and steel items.

When you think about it, the longer bipods that attach to the rifle pretty much do the same thing as the shooting sticks don't they?

I will second this thought. The safety aspects of re-loading are such that in-person demonstration would definitely take any risk out of the process. I had my Brother-in-law to show me step by step, and explain what each step was intended for. Yes, the books are very good at instruction, but the penalty for mis-reading or misunderstanding one step can have some nasty consequences. If you have any ability to get a demo, I would urge you to do it.... and I would recommend that regardless of whether you are 15 years old or 75 years old.

One thing I haven't seen commented on here is the specific wording in the bill : "Increases the penalty for the possession, use, or sale of assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices and certain other weapons and redefines "assault weapon". This is not just a ban on buying, but also a ban on possession or use. That's confiscation .... folks. You know the idea that everyone was joking about in other threads as though gun confiscation was impossible. I didn't read anything about these weapons being grandfathered in. So all those that are rushing to buy black rifles for exhorbitant prices may find that their expensive purchase is illegal and worthless. I also didn't read any plan there for buy-back, so basically the government is simply stealing these weapons. Did I miss something?

I think this guy has highlighted a definite bias in the data reporting via the media and the politicians. The problem is that other than a few people here and there that have viewed this video, how many people are actually aware of it? With the media having total control of information in this country, how does the voting population become aware of their trumped up bogus stats? I don't think it can be done. So it boils down to whatever political agendas that the media want, is indeed the information that the public will receive. That's a pretty nasty thought isn't it, given the super-liberal bent of the over-whelming bulk of the media?

People are people no matter where they are from.

If you have good control on what bullets are going into what gun, neck sizing can actually help control head-space. The case will be fire-formed to that individual gun which is about as good a control on headspace as you can get. Neck sizing will not disturb that "perfect-fit" condition. What I do is full-length size the cases for the first loading. Once they have been shot, I neck-size only. However, the statement was made that you intended to intermix the cases from both guns. In that case, I would suggest that you full-length size every time.

Dang! In the words of Chuck Adams, it looks like you through an ax through him ...... lol. What kind of broadhead was that? I'm amazed that he wasn't painting the woods with blood. Are we looking at the entrance or exit wound?