Doc

I assume that the vet trimmed away some skin there because that doesn't look even a little bit like an arrow wound or a gunshot wound. The muscle tissue is not cut or mangled in anyway. But, who knows. I am not a vet so maybe something with bird-shot might look a lot different than I imagine.

Well, here's the thing. If they even have an inkling that there is the slightest possibility that others were involved, it probably makes sense to keep it under wraps so as not to spook other participants into flight or push up any timetables for impending other activity. The investigation is still in progress and things are carefully being put together. Also, this guy thought through things very well. He was able to keep his thoughts and activities buried very cleverly. Nobody seemed to have a clue that he was a wacko. So he is not making it easy for the investigators. It looks like he was quite adept at covering his tracks. In fact he seemed to be a lot more careful that some of these ISIS creeps. So I am not really all that surprised at the cautious information management and the difficulty that they are having with getting it all together and out to the public.

On that all-day opening day gun season sit, if things don't happen fairly early, those same old trees and logs and stumps get mighty boring looking. I almost always reach that point where setting up the cup and pouring a nice hot cup of coffee starts becoming the highlight of the stand. And then I always start reaching in the pack for one of the half-dozen cold fried egg sandwiches......another big highlight. Sometimes other snacks come into play as well. For me stand hunting is not a diet activity...... lol. But all these snacks and drinks do extend my stay considerably.

The genie is out of the bottle. These things never go backward. At least not that I have ever seen. I said along time ago that hunters have constantly evolved with a desire to remove challenge from hunting. It started with the sight pin on the recurve and the laminated materials. It moved into the compounds, and now the crossbow. I'm skipping over the boxes and bags and drawerfuls of gadgets and go-fasters, and arrow technologies, and all the scents and attractants and agriculture activities. Why on earth would anyone think any of it could ever be turned back. History doesn't support that idea at all.

And why was there two windows broken out? Ah yes the conspiracy theories abound ..... ha-ha-ha. Yes there is many unknowns to theorize about, but it seems like we are arriving at a point where the authorities are opening up a little bit about what they have found out. It is interesting. You do have to wonder about what goes through the mind of a maniac and how anyone could ever work themselves up to the state where they would do such a thing. By the way apparently he had looked at other venues quite seriously. Boston and Chicago were mentioned as alternative sites. And if we want to really get out on the conspiracy limb, maybe the authorities might want to keep an eye on these places. Maybe Paddock was just one of the bad guys. Anyway, we will never be able to look at outdoor entertainment venues the same way again. I'm sure ISIS is taking notes.

I have seen a similar confrontation between a cat and a doe. The cat didn't stick around too long before it beat-feet.

Well hopefully their forecast will be as unreliable as usual. But for those that put stock in that sort of thing, I did hear one meteorologist say that all of October was going to be on the warm side. Might be that we are going to have to tough it out and hope that the deer will get bored and move early even in the heat. One thing that is a bit encouraging is that all summer, deer have been visible standing in the burning sun feeding in the fields. So it's not like they hibernate when the heat's on. I'm not too concerned about it. Bowhunting this early just doesn't seem natural to me. In fact I really don't get all crazy and turned on until the leaves are down......and we are a long way from that.

I understand that you want to dictate the terms of the future, but unfortunately, there are already those that are looking greedily at the bowseason and they are firearms users. And the invasion has already begun without a second thought. So don't be telling me that you are the rules-maker and that you can make all of your comments apply only to bows and crossbows. You don't get to set the rules. So when you make comments that indicate that superior weapons should be added to help solve wounding losses of archery, I am certain that the gunners are cheering you on.

It appears that the main target for new gun laws regards the "bump stock". I have no problem with that and it appears that the NRA has no serious concerns with looking closely at restrictions on those. Since the 1934 National Firearms Act, we have had heavy restrictions on fully automatic firearms regarding possession, transfer and transport. The bump stock is simply a loophole that has now officially been used in a criminal act. Close the loophole!

That is the absolute most ridiculous looking animal I have ever seen.

Grouse ........ I remember those things.

Like I said, your comments are exactly the same as those made by many gun hunters. So don't be surprised if gun comparisons automatically become injected. It's not crowbarring anything into anything. It is simply the very next logical step to the line of comment that you raised. When you start promoting advanced and more effective weapons to try to cure the shortfalls of another, you simply open the door for other arguments with the same theme. You can set whatever ground rules that you please, but eventually you have to face with the reality of how the rest of the world deals with those very same sentiments. And by the way, the intermixing of firearms with bow seasons is not some hypothetical that I made up and really doesn't fall into the category of an "outlandish idea". And so as uncomfortable as it may be to have that pointed out and attached to your comments, I'm afraid that it is a genuine fact of life that, like it or not, has to be faced up to and acknowledged.

There seems to be a lot of information being released that indicates that he may have had help, or that he was just the trigger man of the operation. It also appears that suicide was not the main part of the plan. Some of the arrangements look like he had some escape enablers set up. It will all come out. It just takes time. And officials are not spilling everything they know yet either.

If you got the wind right, enjoy your coffee or whatever else you want to eat and drink. If you don't have the wind right, some additional scents won't matter.

I have all my days off (retired). But don't let that fool you. Fall is the month when most of my other activities are in full swing. And then there are all the doctors appointments and social obligations. So my time is not as free or random as one might think. It seems that back when I was working, I seemed to have more time than I do now. However, the final years of my career, I was able to set my own hours, and I had more vacation than was decent. Pushing my start time as early as I could always left every afternoon free for the evening hunt.

That is because that very same argument that you are using has been parroted by gun hunters talking about all the deer running through the woods with arrows sticking out of them. Their solution?.....End bow hunting and use rifles. It sounds very much like the arguments that say X-bows are justified because there are some bad bowhunters out there. If you want to really sell that point, then you have to agree that guns should be allowed into bow seasons because they are less likely to cause wounding losses. It really is not as big a jump as you are making out. The argument has been used before many times ..... by gun hunters. Another thought comes to mind when I hear people talk about x-bows as a super weapon is the element of over confidence in the crossbow abilities. Those people who misuse bows are the same ones that would take ridiculous shots with their new super-weapon, their crossbow. It's not correct to think that those with bows are reckless and care little about the quality of shots that they are taking, but crossbow shooters are somehow more responsible for their shot selection. There is no real reason to believe that.

Yes that's the exact logic that prompted the DEC to push for an early muzzleloading season about a decade ago. I assume you were for that too. Care to give up a couple weeks of bow/crossbow season so the DEC can get a much more efficient weapon shoehorned in?

Nah, it's all just discussion of possibilities of a very powerful and current event. Fear not!

And that is where it all began.....lol. Was that a good move? It all depends on where it all ends.

You are right, I was on the wrong side of that one. Unfortunately it has taken many decades to actually see the result, and learn from the pattern. I see the issue not so much of imposing my preferences on anyone as simply trying to preserve something that is worth saving. Not everything needs to suffer the pollution of change

No......Nothing was ever resolved as far as the differences. The issues are the same. No reason for the discussion to come out any different.

Or at least he knew how to buy modified weapons. It's going to be interesting to see how all of this develops. It is true that none of this makes any sense right now. Hopefully none of us can possibly understand the mentality of someone who would do this kind of thing and we are all struggling to make sense of something so illogical. But the details will eventually be all put together and released. Until then it is only natural to let our imaginations come up with all kinds of crazy scenarios. And I suppose it is all quite harmless theorizing.

I have traveled almost the entire gambit of the bowhunting development in NYS. I have seen it all. I watched the struggles from the time bowhunting was a novelty and kind of a joke in the hunting community all the way to today where gun hunters are sincere in their opposition to bowhunting because of our growing success. And as a matter of fact I am very happy that we do have a season because I have been with the struggle almost since inception. Now for the first time, I am feeling a threat to that season. It all started with the compound and we are now outsmarting ourselves. I am convinced that I do not want to ever have to bowhunt concurrently with gun hunters. But as the nature and success of bowseason continues to improve, I am feeling a bit uneasy about that happening. That ois how I or those trying to enjoy what I have enjoyed all my life can be affected. No, at my age, I likely will be long gone before that ever happens, but I do get concerned over the future of a sport that has been so central to most of my life.

I was on the pro-compound side of the argument. I was laughing at the guys who claimed that the compound would provide the precedent for bigger and better things of the future.