Four Seasons

Exactly! Unless someone is only hunting deep in the Adirondacks they are hunting animals that lives revolve around the fruits of man’s labor. To scratch out a 50ft area in the center of the woods and toss out a little Throw and Grow being watched by a camera is far from management. Very few have the land, equipment or means to really do any kind of real management. But again just giving your deer a sanctuary on your property is a small form of management.

I don’t need to look anywhere. Have only been doing it for over 25 years as a business and pleasure. With 100% success rate on both. You were the one all talk and now your showing everyone in this site just what we all have known. Tell us all about how much land you own and manage. Tell us all about what you do on a yearly basis, crops planted, fruit and nut trees planted and by all means show us your hero success shots of the animals you have harvested as a return on all your hard work. This is a learning hunting site after all. We all will appreciate listening and learning from all your knowledge!

Exactly. Another smack talker that can’t back anything up. You really offer a lot to a hunting site. Funny we never see the fruits of all your great knowledge from the field. Typical!!

Oh don’t turn tail now. This is just another fine example of what everyone on here already knows. Don’t teach me, I have it all figured out remember… Teach the rest of the fellas on here that might not have it down yet. Tell them all about deer management and what trail cams and food plots don’t do to help. Should be interesting!

What a bunch of crap. Nobody tells anyone else what deer to shoot and you really are lost and still playing the game of 50 years ago. You think trail cameras do not tell a person how many animals are on their property during the year? Management. You think hunting landowners of today do not plant crops and feed the animals on their property during the year? Management. And the list goes on. Obviously all animals belong to no one person but I can promise you when a person is managing 1000 plus acres of land some of those animals may never leave that property. When that 1000 acres has everything a whitetail needs to survive they have no need to leave. Management!!! QDMA has the word Management right in it. It does not say TDMA.. Even though a person that did do management for trophy animals is still managing the whole herd. You think someone is going to keep a steady group of mature animals on their property without managing the whole herd. I think not. The facts are 99.9% of hunters are of the hope that they see and tag the biggest buck in their woods every time they sit on stand. Most just settle for less, That’s still their choice. Some of us just choose the challenge of taking the best of their area and will not settle for anything less. But by all mean great one. Teach us all your ways of deer management while your on this hunting site.

It’s all about the Attitude!

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Came out looking sweet.

They use the little tiny ones. The pic’s are sent directly to your cell phone. There are Trail Cam’s and they use the SD cards you have to check of course and then the cell’s that you never have to be around them except for battery replacement.

Myself I have like 16 Spypoint’s and have had great luck with them. I did have one that would leak in heavy rain. Would dry out and work fine again but was a pain. I also have 12 of the Walmart special Tasco cams with the cards for most of the public land spots. $28 is not much of a hit when the walk off the tree.

No doubt it’s tough to even think you are managing a herd without a good sized track of land you have 100% control of. In my case I have over 1000 acres of one solid piece with a military base across the road at the home farm. Then there is 800 acres that borders Letchworth Park. Lack of deer will never be a problem. Everybody hunts for different reasons but only landowners will be true land managers. I love the ones that bring up Trophy hunting and hit lists. In order to have either In any kind of numbers year after year one has to have a pretty good management idea on their property. That’s all the way from farming practices,Tree work all the way to feeding them every winter everything they need to stay healthy.

I’m a tad bit further North then yourself but you sure have me beat in the Snow department. Like Today. Green grass and a dusting here at the farm and 10 miles down 81 are getting total whiteouts. That’s the tough part on the winter travel.

What code # was thrown? Lots of miles on the ole girl. My guess would be the canister or line and getting it smoked would show something. Anyone in your area just charge you to smoke it and send ya on your way to fix yourself? Smaller shop maybe?

Yeah it’s definitely been awhile. We Pm’ed back and forth a couple times around deer season last year talking about finding hunting spots down in our area. He was in the process of getting his kid addicted to the game. I’m sure he looks in every now and again and see’s how smooth the machine runs around here now. Amazing how some sites need 5-6 mods and others get by just fine with one!

Definitely makes one wonder. Wish he would at least reach out to you or John. Have not checked on John but my guess is he still looks in every now and again.

Exactly. I don’t see this site going anywhere anytime soon. If it ever does it would suck but it’s been a great run all these years. The last 1-2 so much more enjoyable.

Enjoy Your Day!

Yeah I’m sure. So let me get this right. A guy hunts a herd on his property daily for months at a time and even targeting the youngest of the herd and does not get it done it’s a good thing for that herd to be pressured for another week in the toughest time of their season some are now bred with two fawns and other have dropped their antlers for the season trying to recoup their health. Gotcha. And just a little FYI if your talking to a guy that even has a “Hit List” of some of the top animals the state/area can produce he obviously is doing something right with his herd. Now if that Hunter harvests those hit list animals on a yearly basis he not only a good manager of his herd but a good hunter also. Some might want to listen and learn. But we could always extend the season to 6-7 months in areas that have an over population because of lack of open hunting land. Maybe that extra time would open those unhuntable properties.

They sure do. Very few real battles at my place even with a pen of Twenty 3yr olds together. Just a look tells their story between them. But when two of them feel like it’s ..Go Time..it can get down right nasty.

I was apeein on an old log lately. lol. Great job on the young man’s buck. Memories for years to come.

Sucks no doubt. Stupid late season hunting as it is. Kudos to you for giving it a go and back at it tomorrow to hopefully end the suffering. I would also kinda rule out gut shot only. Maybe back but still got liver or something and jaw…hard to even write that… could also be in play.

Exactly what you said. Your choice was not to hunt. If the seasons were not extended for 5 months and unneeded xtra pressure on the herds it would help the herd and hunting. Most places that have an over abundance of deer Is either well managed herds or places that people can’t hunt.

What area are you hunting in?

Exactly as they should. Management is knowing what the herd needs. And stress for 4-5 months in Ny state is the last thing they need.

Enjoy the day.