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On my Kodiak the hammer doesnt push the firing pin in when its not cocked. When cocked the force of the spring pressure on the hammer just drives it forward to the point it pushes the firing pin and fires the primer. When you cock it and maually and slowly release the hammer back into non firing position it doesnt have the force to drive the firing pin. I would guess your hammer is the issue after looking at my Kodiak. it Shouldnt be pushing that firing pin so far forward. At least that is how it is on my CVA Kodiak.

Now you got me confused.

Speaking of perpetuating misunderstandings. Sorry but I mis-understood nothing you made that statement did you not?

These are some paste jobs showing actual facts.

Texas : No New Positives Found in 2013-14 Trans Pecos CWD Surveillance Date: March 28, 2014 Source: Texas Parks and Wildlife Department Contacts: Texas Parks and Wildlife Department AUSTIN – Nearly 300 tissue samples were collected from hunter harvested deer and elk from the Trans Pecos ecoregion during the 2013-14 season to test for Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD). Over the last two hunting seasons upwards of 600 deer and elk have been tested for CWD, thanks to the cooperation of hunters and landowners who have participated in the state’s hunter check stations. “Undoubtedly without the hunter check stations, and hunter and landowner participation, we would know very little about the prevalence of the disease or where it exists,” said Mitch Lockwood, Big Game Program Director with the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department. To date, 617 deer and elk have been tested through the CWD check stations and strategic sampling that occurred during the summer of 2012; 215 were in the Containment Zone, 172 were in the adjacent High Risk Zone, 57 were in the Buffer Zone, and 173 were outside of the CWD zones. Forty five of the samples tested from the Containment Zone were from deer harvested in the Hueco Mountains. TPWD’s Current CWD Management Zones “Additional sampling is necessary to develop more confidence in the geographic extent and prevalence of the disease, but the fact that CWD has not been detected in Texas outside of the Hueco Mountains of northern El Paso and Hudspeth counties is encouraging,” said Lockwood. Including the positives reported from last year’s sampling effort, and the three positives reported by New Mexico Game and Fish in 2012, CWD has been detected in 9 of 49 deer sampled in the Hueco Mountains. CWD is a member of the group of diseases called transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs). Other diseases in this group include scrapie in sheep, bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE or mad cow disease) in cattle, and Cruetzfeldt-Jakob disease in humans. CWD among cervids is a progressive, fatal disease that commonly results in altered behavior as a result of microscopic changes made to the brain of affected animals. An animal may carry the disease for years without outward indication, but in the latter stages, signs may include listlessness, lowering of the head, weight loss, repetitive walking in set patterns, and a lack of responsiveness. CWD is not known to affect humans or livestock. There is no vaccine or cure for CWD, but steps have been taken to minimize the risk of the disease spreading from beyond the area where it currently exists. TPWD and Texas Animal Health commissions adopted rules to restrict movement of deer, elk, and other susceptible species within or from the CWD Zones as well increase surveillance efforts.

Ohio : Chronic Wasting Disease Not Found in Ohio Deer Date: June 10, 2014 Source: Ohio Department of Natural Resources Contacts: Ohio Department of Natural Resources CWD not found for 12th consecutive year COLUMBUS, OH – The Ohio Department of Natural Resources (ODNR) and the Ohio Department of Agriculture (ODA) announced that testing of Ohio's deer herd found no evidence of chronic wasting disease (CWD), which is a degenerative brain disease that affects elk, mule deer and white-tailed deer. State and federal agriculture and wildlife officials collected tissue samples from 753 deer killed on Ohio’s roads from September 2013 through March 2014. An additional 88 hunter-harvested mature bucks and nine deer displaying symptoms consistent with CWD were tested as well. According to the ODNR Division of Wildlife, all samples were negative for CWD for the 12th consecutive year. Since CWD was first discovered in the late 1960s in the western United States, there has been no evidence that the disease can be transmitted to humans. Since 2002, the ODNR Division of Wildlife, in conjunction with the ODA Division of Animal Health and the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, Wildlife and Veterinary Services, has conducted surveillance throughout the state for CWD. While CWD has never been found in Ohio's deer herd, it had been diagnosed in wild and captive deer, moose or elk elsewhere in the United States and Canada. The ODNR Division of Wildlife continues to carefully monitor the health of Ohio's wild deer herd throughout the year. Visit ohioagriculture.gov or wildohio.gov for the latest information on CWD or the Chronic Wasting Disease Alliance at cwd-info.org. All CWD testing is performed at the ODA Animal Disease Diagnostic Laboratory.

North Carolina : Wildlife Commission Reports CWD Not Detected in North Carolina Date: July 08, 2014 Source: North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission RALEIGH, N.C. (July 8, 2014) — Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD), a transmissible and fatal neurological disease of deer and elk, was not detected in a recent statewide survey conducted by the N.C. Wildlife Resources Commission. Humans are not known to contract CWD. No treatment or cure for CWD exists. Direct, animal-to-animal contact is a means of transmission, but evidence suggests that contaminated environments and equipment also present risks. “CWD proves devastating to populations of cervids — the family of mammals that includes white-tailed deer, elk, mule deer and moose,” said Dr. Maria Palamar, wildlife veterinarian for the Commission. “The indications of this survey are welcome news.” The diagnostic laboratory report was from a sampling of more than 3,800 free-ranging deer and elk beginning in 2013 and continuing through earlier this year. Biologists collected brain stem tissue and retropharyngeal lymph nodes from the animals. “It was a successful and widespread effort to obtain samples,” Palamar said. “Much thanks goes to agency field staff in all divisions, certainly, but we have to especially thank all the deer hunters and processors who provided samples. We exceeded our sample goals. The survey also provided excellent CWD educational opportunities.” CWD has been confirmed in neighboring states, with West Virginia reporting a case in 2005, followed by Virginia in 2010 and Maryland in 2011. Preventive measures are in place to reduce the risk of transmission in North Carolina, with stringent regulations governing anyone who holds captive cervids and regulations for hunters returning with hide, meat or trophies of cervids taken out of state. For more information on CWD, go online or call the Division of Wildlife Management at 919-707-0050. CWD positive states are Virginia, North Dakota, Missouri, Michigan, New York, West Virginia, Utah, Illinois, Oklahoma, Minnesota, New Mexico, Wisconsin, Kansas, Maryland, Montana, Nebraska, South Dakota, Wyoming, Colorado, Texas, Iowa and Pennsylvania. Also, Canada’s Alberta and Saskatchewan provinces have reported CWD cases.

New York : No Detection of Chronic Wasting Disease in New York Deer Date: March 28, 2014 Source: New York State Department of Environmental Conservation Contacts: New York State Department of Environmental Conservation Testing of more than 2,500 samples of deer statewide found no deer infected with Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD), the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) announced today. CWD continues to pose a threat to New York's wild white-tailed deer as Pennsylvania discovered CWD in both captive white-tailed deer and wild, free-ranging white-tailed deer in 2012. Since 2002, DEC annually has tested hunter-harvested white-tailed deer for CWD. The last confirmed case of CWD in New York was in 2005. "Under Governor Cuomo's NY Open for Fishing and Hunting Initiative, New York State hunting relies on a healthy deer population and CWD could devastate the state's wild deer herd," said DEC Commissioner Joe Martens. "DEC thanks cooperating hunters, meat processors and taxidermists that contributed samples for testing. Successful CWD surveillance depends on all of us. By testing both sick and healthy-appearing deer, DEC looks to identify the earliest intrusion of CWD into New York." Public reporting of sick and abnormal deer throughout the year is also important because these animals are collected and tested for CWD. DEC's Wildlife Health Unit conducts full necropsies (animal autopsy) to determine the source of illness or cause of death on many species, including deer. In 2012, DEC revised the state CWD surveillance program to include information on population density, deer age and sex, and risk factors, including border counties with Pennsylvania. The goal was to collect samples from the highest risk areas. For further details on the initiation and timeline of DEC's CWD surveillance program, visit DEC's website. Hunters going to Pennsylvania and other CWD-positive states are not permitted to bring back whole carcasses. Prions, the protein that causes CWD, concentrates in tissues like the brain and spinal cord and remain infectious to other deer. It is permitted to bring meat and cleaned skull caps and capes back from a successful hunt. The purpose of this is to prevent the importation of CWD-infected material. CWD is a fatal disease of deer, elk and moose that is now found in 22 states. It is in the family of diseases known as "transmissible spongiform encephalopathies" or TSEs, which includes "Mad Cow" disease. No human cases of CWD have ever been reported, according to the Federal Centers for Disease Control. DEC continues to conduct its educational campaign to inform hunters and the public about CWD. Prevention is the only proven management strategy for wildlife diseases. Therefore, hunters are encouraged to protect New York's deer herd by knowing and following the regulations for hunting outside of New York. Deboning meat will remove the highly infectious parts. In addition to carcasses, urine can also contain prions that can infect deer. Avoid using deer urine or choose synthetic alternatives. Prions can bind to soil and remain infectious to wild deer for years. Governor Cuomo's NY Open for Fishing and Hunting Initiative is an effort to improve recreational activities for sportsmen and sportswomen and to boost tourism opportunities throughout the state. This initiative includes the streamlining of fishing and hunting licensing and reducing license fees, improved access for fishing at various sites across the state and increasing hunting opportunities in various regions. This year, Governor Cuomo unveiled the NYS Adventure License, which allows outdoor enthusiasts, boaters, anglers and hunters to consolidate their recreation licenses and benefits onto their New York State Driver's License, and the NYS Adventure License Plates, featuring nine plate designs available for free to those buying new lifetime hunting, fishing or park licenses in 2014. In support of this initiative, this year Governor Cuomo has proposed creating 50 new land access projects to connect hunters, anglers, bird watchers and others who enjoy the outdoors to more than 380,000 acres of existing state and easement lands that have gone untapped until now. These 50 new access projects include building new boat launches, installing new hunting blinds and building new trails and parking areas. In addition, the Governor's 2014-15 budget proposes to: include $4 million to repair the state's fish hatcheries; limit the liability of landowners who allow recreational activities on their properties, which could open up vast, untapped resources for additional hunting, fishing and many other recreational pursuits; and allow crossbow hunting once again in New York State. It is also illegal to feed deer. Concentrating deer at a feed or bait pile concentrates animals and helps spread disease. Report sick deer or deer behaving abnormally to your nearest DEC office. For a listing of regional DEC offices, visit DEC's website.

Missouri : MDC testing results show no new cases of chronic wasting disease Date: March 11, 2014 Source: Missouri Department of Conservation Contacts: Missouri Department of Conservation JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. – Following the testing of 3,666 free-ranging deer harvested during and after the 2013 deer-hunting season, the Missouri Department of Conservation (MDC) has detected no additional cases of chronic wasting disease (CWD) in Missouri free-ranging deer. The total number of confirmed cases in Missouri free-ranging deer remains limited to 10 found in 2012 and early 2013. All were from a small area of northwest Macon County near where CWD was confirmed in 10 captive deer in 2012 at a private hunting preserve. Missouri’s first case of CWD was discovered in 2010 in a captive deer at private hunting facility in southeast Linn County owned by the same private hunting preserve. “While I am cautiously optimistic that these latest test results suggest our efforts to limit the spread of CWD may be working, the threat of this infectious disease remains significant,” said MDC State Wildlife Veterinarian Kelly Straka. “Therefore, continued surveillance is important.” Of the 3,666 deer tested, 1,520 were from Department’s CWD Containment Zone of Chariton, Randolph, Macon, Linn, Sullivan, and Adair counties. Of the 1,520, 206 were from the 30-square-mile CWD Core Area around the private hunting preserve in Macon County where cases of the disease were discovered in captive deer. The remaining 2,146 test samples were gathered from deer harvested outside of the six-county Containment Zone as part of MDC’s ongoing statewide sampling effort. As done in the past two years, MDC again worked with local landowners during January and February to harvest and test 147 free-ranging deer as part of 206 samples collected in the CWD Core Area. The effort was done to monitor infection rates and help limit the spread of the disease from deer to deer by reducing local deer numbers. “More than 90 percent of Missouri land is privately owned, so landowners are vital to deer management and to our ongoing efforts to limit the spread of CWD,” Dr. Straka said. “We greatly appreciate the cooperation of local landowners in the CWD Core Area who participated in this effort. Their sacrifice in temporarily reducing local deer numbers is helping to protect the health of deer throughout the state.” She added that MDC will continue working with hunters and landowners to test harvested free-ranging deer for CWD during future deer seasons. Missouri offers some of the best deer hunting in the country, and deer hunting is an important part of many Missourians’ lives and family traditions. Infectious diseases such as CWD could reduce hunting and wildlife-watching opportunities for Missouri’s nearly 520,000 deer hunters and almost two million wildlife watchers. Deer hunting is also an important economic driver in Missouri and gives a $1 billion annual boost to state and local economies. Lower deer numbers from infectious diseases such as CWD could hurt 12,000 Missouri jobs and many businesses that rely on deer hunting as a significant source of revenue, such as meat processors, taxidermists, hotels, restaurants, sporting goods stores, and others. CWD also threatens the investments of thousands of private landowners who manage their land for deer and deer hunting, and who rely on deer and deer hunting to maintain property values. Chronic wasting disease infects only deer and other members of the deer family by causing degeneration of the brain. The disease has no vaccine or cure and is 100-percent fatal. CWD is spread both directly from deer to deer and indirectly to deer from infected soil and other surfaces. Deer and other cervids can have CWD for several years without showing any symptoms. Once symptoms are visible, infected animals typically die within one or two months. Once well established in an area, CWD has been shown to be impossible to eradicate. For more information on CWD, including what MDC is doing to limit the spread, and what hunters and others can do to help, go online.

Iowa : Test Results from Captive Deer Herd With Chronic Wasting Disease Released Date: October 02, 2014 Source: Iowa Department of Agriculture and Land Stewardship 79.8 percent of the deer tested positive for the disease DES MOINES – The Iowa Department of Agriculture and Land Stewardship today announced that the test results from the depopulation of a quarantined captive deer herd in north-central Iowa showed that 284 of the 356 deer, or 79.8% of the herd, tested positive for Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD). The owners of the quarantined herd have entered into a fence maintenance agreement with the Iowa Department of Agriculture and Land Stewardship, which requires the owners to maintain the 8’ foot perimeter fence around the herd premises for five years after the depopulation was complete and the premises had been cleaned and disinfected CWD is a progressive, fatal, degenerative neurological disease of farmed and free-ranging deer, elk, and moose. There is no known treatment or vaccine for CWD. CWD is not a disease that affects humans. On July 18, 2012, USDA Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service’s (APHIS) National Veterinary Services Lab in Ames, IA confirmed that a male white tail deer harvested from a hunting preserve in southeast IA was positive for CWD. An investigation revealed that this animal had just been introduced into the hunting preserve from the above-referenced captive deer herd in north-central Iowa. The captive deer herd was immediately quarantined to prevent the spread of CWD. The herd has remained in quarantine until its depopulation on August 25 to 27, 2014. The Iowa Department of Agriculture and Land Stewardship participated in a joint operation to depopulate the infected herd with USDA Veterinary Services, which was the lead agency, and USDA Wildlife Services. Federal indemnity funding became available in 2014. USDA APHIS appraised the captive deer herd of 376 animals at that time, which was before depopulation and testing, at $1,354,250. At that time a herd plan was developed with the owners and officials from USDA and the Iowa Department of Agriculture and Land Stewardship. Once the depopulation was complete and the premises had been cleaned and disinfected, indemnity of $917,100.00 from the USDA has been or will be paid to the owners as compensation for the 356 captive deer depopulated. The Iowa Department of Agriculture and Land Stewardship operates a voluntary CWD program for farms that sell live animals. Currently 145 Iowa farms participate in the voluntary program. The above-referenced captive deer facility left the voluntary CWD program prior to the discovery of the disease as they had stopped selling live animals. All deer harvested in a hunting preserve must be tested for CWD.

Show me the real facts to back this what happens case up? Im not being smart either. What has it been almost 48 years since CWD was first identified in the US? How long was CWD in the US before it was ever discovered and identified? When is this expected CWD running crazy through wild herds predicted? There are many CWD cases diagnosed in captive animals in the US since 1967 as well. The CWD Alliance list them all since it was first identified. Seems to me there is more to worry about than free range. 1967 CWD was first identified as a clinical disease in captive mule deer at the Colorado Division of Wildlife Foothills Wildlife Research Facility in Fort Collins, Colorado. 1979 CWD was first recognized in captive mule deer and black-tailed deer at the Wyoming Fish and Game Department's Sybille wildlife research facility. CWD was diagnosed in captive elk for the first time. 1996 CWD was found for the first time outside of the Colorado/Wyoming CWD "endemic zone" in a captive elk farm in Saskatchewan. 1997 CWD is identified on several captive elk facilities in South Dakota, marking the first documented cases of CWD in the state. 1998 June 1998 and again in June 1999, elk shipped to Oklahoma from an alternative livestock facility near Philipsburg were confirmed to have CWD. 1999 CWD is detected in a captive elk facility in Oklahoma, marking the first time the disease was found in the state. 1999nIn November and December 1999, all 83 elk at the Philipsburg facility in Montana (the source of the CWD captive positive in Oklahoma) were destroyed. 2001 Nebraska discovered CWD in a captive white-tailed deer facility for the first time 2002 The Minnesota Board of Animal Health confirmed the presence of CWD in a captive elk, the state's first documented case of the disease. 2002 The Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources detected CWD in a captive white-tailed deer, the state's first documented case of CWD in captive cervids 2002 The first case of CWD in Alberta was found at a white-tailed deer farm near Edmonton. 2005 The New York State Department of Agriculture and Markets confirmed the presence of CWD in a captive white-tailed deer, marking the state's first documented case of CWD. 2006 The Minnesota Board of Animal Health confirmed that a captive white-tailed deer from Lac Qui Parle County tested positive for CWD. This is the state's first case of CWD in captive white-tailed deer. 2008 The Michigan Department of Natural Resources detected CWD in a captive white-tailed deer from Kent County. This is state's first documented case of CWD. 2008 Elk meat sold at a Longmont, Colorado farmers market was found to come from a captive elk infected with CWD. 2010 The Missouri Department of Agriculture discovers the state's first case of CWD in a captive white-tailed deer. 2012 First case of CWD found in captive Pennsylvania deer.

You just cant get a post in without a negative statement about free range deer can you? You stand up to what you call lies and some of us will do the same.

Maybe its not being read the way I type it then, I do not have a problem with it, the problem I have I already stated and its the bases behind what Im argueing and that again is how some of these guys are making claims free rage hunting is doomed and will be a thing of the past and the future is behind a high fence. That is what I have the problem with, that BS statement and trying to promote there agenda by preaching it to better themselves. Man if you were a newbie hunter and read some of this stuff these guys say you would think every deer in the woods is a walking disease and hunting is doomed unless you pay to kill one. What happen to promoting a business without bashing the heck out of the way the Vast majority of people hunt? Tell us what is so great about these high fenced hunts and deer farms to promote them without putting a scar on free range hunting.

20? Your too funny! Come on man you are out on a limb with this one. You do know there is 4,756,640 acres of state forest,WMA and Easements in NY right? Not to mention the acres of land owned by hunters. Yes we all know hunting leases are common place this day and age to hunters who do not own there own land. I would take a guess most hunters enjoy spending more than one day hunting in NY, and it would be my guess this is why these non land owning hunters grab up these leases when they are available, and it would be my guess that a one year lease on a lot of these acres are far cheaper than a one day hunt behind a fence. What you dont mention is the way of our youth and there immediate desire for sastisfaction without the hard work. That right there would be more justified than statements of the DEC ruining deer herds and what little bit of good land there is left. Promote the hell out of your business, just dont spin the heck out of reality in free range deer hunting.

Please go point out where I stated I dont like high fence hunting? How many times do I need to say I dont have no problem with people who hunt penned deer. Quit reading between the lines and reading on the defense. If yo do that you may see what Im saying. Again and again you say FACTS but yet we see no Facts other than you saying it. Now you are questioning my knowledge when you have ZERO knowledge of what I do know. Now tell me how many deer are killed on these 300 farms in NY? Now how many are killed in free range in NY. Now tell me honestly you really think the future of hunting is behind a fence? I think not and this was your statement and this is why this debate started and was steered away from CWD.

LOL your right we need a new AR, Crossbow and Mountain LIon thread started, the natives are getting restless with all these Facts we have to weed through these days on here.

Honestly how can you expect anyone to even consider you as an intelligant individual when all you do is ridicule fellow hunters?

Thats what he does JustRob, he loves to base his FACTS from PrisonPlanet, a known conspiracy theory website. Most everyone just ignores him.

LMFAO people are sick of not seeing any good deer! That is your response to me? Again I ask what are the numbers on "these people" and the numbers of free range hunters? Sorry paying to hunt a high fenced deer is not the way of the future as you state. Like I said and you just backed it up its the way of the wealthy who do not want to spend the time in the woods to get a "good" free range deer. Take a look at the NY Big Buck Club, how about P&Y and B&C, yep there are not any good deer outside a high fence. I said already I dont have a problem with guys who feel the need to spend there money on pen raised hunting, it is just wrong for these farmers to push there agenda by putting a black mark on wild free range deer and the people who hunt them. A bit arrogant. It was asked in past post by others for reference to these prion statements and the death of hunting as we all know it but yet we still havent seen these so called "facts". If I recall it was one persons opinion in one article but I could be wrong, each reply pretty much has been something along the lines of Im ot going to do the research for you look it up.

Uhhh yeah Okay, How many Free Range hunters are there and how many High Fence Killers are out there? You honestly think anyone other than the very wealthy wanabes hunters who cat hunt and need a freak buck put in there face to hang on the wall to brag to there buddies how they killed this massive buck is the future of hunting? I have no problem with Deer Farms or the people who want to pay for a deer cause they dont know how to hunt or dont want to put any effort into hunting a free range deer, but I do have a problem with the way some deer farmers are trying to promote there business by putting a black mark and spewing crap about free range hunting, free range animals and the purity of the sport. All it does is put a black mark on the Deer Farms and doesnt go over well at all. The best way to explain the way these guys come across is like the campain commercials on TV bashing there opponent with some desperate attempt to make the "other" guy look stupid when all it does is make the one who paid for the add look like a complete arse.

This is off topic but thought I would share. I was at traffic court this week, every time the judge stated the fine he would say............. the fine is 100 dollars and Cuomos cut is 93 dollars for a total of 193. When a couple people complained he said to them I recomend you contact Cuomo and file a complaint.

This is an example for you JustRob. Notice the quote times vs your original post time. The reason it is different on my quote is I just went in and changed my timezone settings. It also automatically changed all my quote times and post times from the past as well. Now I hope I remember to change it back after you read this or I will be off by many hours forever lol.

Its about time you posted in this thread John. lol

The reason is the orginal poster's time setting on his profile is different than the time settings on the one who made the quotes profile. Doesnt matter what time someone elses post states when you quote it if your not on the same time zone setting as him/her its going to automatically capture your time settings. It has nothing to do with what the time on your computer is set for but what the time settings on your NY Hunting Forum profile settings are at.

We have had a lease agreement with C&H for I would guess 15 years now. The communication with Bob has been very very good. During this time it has been logged off once just recently. Bob made contact way before this process took place, any concerns we had were addressed, the loggers did a really clean respectable job, there was zero damage to any of our trees stands. With Bobs approval we have even put in some food plots, he called us when the logging was done just to tell us we were more than welcome to seed the logging trails also and he even had the loggers leave a few extra logs near our camp to cut up for firewood for the deer season. We could not be happier with our lease.