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Why wouldn't you hunt him?? I would all day!

Not sure what this means???? "Their" place?? IT IS MY PLACE! I have been hunting here my whole life, my friend owns 300acres. I live 5 minutes from where I was parked. Just because people are parked on the side of the road doesn't mean that they aren't local. If they are local they were breaking into vehicles that were local also for the most part. I know one thing they definitely wanted to destroy the vehicles as well as steal money and wallets. They stole the cash and wallets from every vehicle but no other belongings.

Oh yeah and the only lead we have right now is it is a red car with a white door. This was done in Rensselaer County so if you have any leads please pm me or contact the authorities, these guys need to go to jail. Thanks!

Sunday I went into the woods at 5:30am and came out at 10:30 for a break. When I came out to the truck I noticed both doors were open and I had locked them when I went into the woods??? I got a little closer and noticed that both windows were blown out of my brand new truck also. When I got up to the truck 3 out of four windows were shattered, they hit the other one like 7 times but it wouldn't break. They ripped the door handles off, ripped all molding off, and bent the driver side door. Once in the vehicle they ransacked everything and stole my Fathers wallet. Luckily I carried mine that day. The part that I find strange is that I had a digital camera, a video camera, and a DroidX in the center console and they didn't take any of it. They hit 12 hunters that morning parked on the side of the road. Now I have a $500 deductible to pay for $3500 done to my truck! I really hope they catch these guys because I am just sick over it. Oh yeah and I was parked 30yds from the house on the side of the road!!!!

What a beauty!

Great buck! love how people say it isn't a real pic because the guy is standing at a 33.3 degreee angle, the air temp was 42, and there was a southwest wind that day so that can't be real. What's even better is trying to say you can score a deer better by a photo than the guy who shot it and measured it with his bare hands! You really can't post anything in these forums without people calling you a liar or trying to tell you how you are wrong and they are right. It is a joke really.... I learned it after the last topic I posted. Anyways nice buck! Looks 180 Green to me!

Nice Buck! Mount him!

Oops I just copied and pasted a email that I had sent to my buddy about it and forgot I had written that. I was just being honest though I knew I just wounded a deer drowned in my sorrows that night with a couple hunting buddies. As far as posting about losing a deer I will never do it again... Lesson learned!

I have shot MANY MANY MANY deer in snow and the bloodtrail couldn't have stuck out any better! I would rather track a deer in white snow than on red and orange leaves! Yes some of the blood will sink in the snow but there would still be SOMETHING, there was virtually nothing here maybe 2 drops total and guess what they were on top of the snow. Now if you told me that the snow that was falling covered it up than I would agree with you. Seriously though can I get your number so if I shoot a deer this weekend you can come track it for me?? I hear you are the best around! And I got sucked in again.... Lunch is almost over though!

"So you really don't understand that if the arrow was in the body cavity you killed that deer based on the elevated angle? Wow." Who are you to say the deer is dead? It may or may not be dead neither of us know for sure! Are you saying that no deer can have an arrow stuck through it and live? TheDude just posted a pic in the TrailCam pics section of a doe with a arrow completely through her head walking around! And anyways I never claimed that the deer isn't dead right now because I don't know either way. What I do know is if the deer is dead it took HOURS to die and that its why I didn't chase him around, he wasn't losing any blood and he didn't get hit in any vitals.... SO DO THE MATH HE DOESN'T DIE ANYTIME SOON! What do you not understand about this????? If that deer died\dies I bet it will be from infection if anything. You really think you know it all don't you? Anyways I can't believe I responded again I promised myself I was done but that is officially it for me.

Man those are awesome pics

Dude seriously?? You are STILL going on about this?? DO you work? When I first posted this I wrote a quick write up not expecting that it would be picked apart like this and I needed to write EXACTLY what happened. I think I stated that I hit it above the lungs but below the spine and I was just trying to give an idea of where the shot was. It was actually a little bit back and I NO FOR A FACT I DID NOT HIT ANY VITALS! No heart, no lungs, no liver. Anyways I am done with this thread, this is ridiculous. Some of you guys like to act like you are perfect...NEVER made a bad shot, Never hunted in rain, Never hunted in the snow, Never hunted on a windy day! HA! I bet if I talked to your best friend I would hear a different story. Anyways for the record I am an ethical hunter, I do try to make good decisions, I practice deer management, I put a lot of time in the woods year around studying deer, and I am part of several hunting and fishing clubs\organizations. Thanks for those of you who could relate or actually give some advice rather than nit picking a quick write up and jumping to conclusions. As far as Culvercreek and Doewhacker, I live in the Albany area and you guys seem to have all the answers about hunting maybe you could take me out and show me the ropes?? Sorry this thread turned into this!! I am not contributing another minute to it!

Me to obviously! God I love how everyone is perfect when you don't know them personally and prove otherwise. I admited everything that I did wrong, won't post anything but success for now on. So you get out of the stand and go home if it starts snowing or raining during your hunt? Do you ever get in the stand? "...then he comes out with the "don't regret anything"??? ayfkm" I WAS REFERRING TO BACKING OUT THAT NIGHT! OBVIOUSLY I REGRET MAKING A BAD SHOT! I would never in a million years want to wound a deer of any kind. Some of the best hunting is before a storm that is rolling in, who stays home? I had a deer at 15yds yes it was snowing but at the time I knew that if I hit him the way I should have he wouldn't have gotten away in rain, sno, sleet, or freezing rain. Everyone I know was hunting last Sunday during that snow and I know alot of good ethical hunters, me being one of them.

"At least the night of you could have hauled ass on the tracks and tried to follow him. You don't need to listen to advice, I'm just telling you what you should have done in that situation." So because it was snowing I should have chased around a deer that was hit bad for miles? Have you ever heard the saying "when in doubt back out"??? My hope was that if I let him sit he might have layed down and gone to sleep. If I went over and found good blood within 50 yards of where I shot him I would have went after him that night. Since I found almost no blood anywhere I decided to hope he would die slowly over the night. It was snowing hard enough that I would have lost tracks in 30minutes and there is no way that deer died within 30minutes I guarantee you that. Last tiem a derr can run faster than me through the woods in the dark. My odds of finding him dead by letting him sit were greater than chacing him around. If I let him sit and I found him you would prob be sitting here telling me it was a good move not chasing him! Anyways hindsight is 20\20, thanks for "telling me what I should have done in this situation" but I truly believe that you are compltely wrong in this case. "Its called restraint and good decision making, it comes with being a responsible hunter." Restraint? 15yds broadside and taking a shot entails me not having restraint?? How much better can it get than that? If I hit him properly he would have died within 50yds and we could have gotten 2ft of snow that night and I would have found him. This is why I hate even posting a story like this because you always get know it alls that would have done it different. Making good decisions is the 12 immature bucks I passed this year and waiting until this one came out at 15yds to take the shot.

"you should have tracked immediately" - I had a Luminoc sticking out of the deer when it ran away so I knew where I hit him. The deer was shot below the spine but above the lungs. The only chance I had of catching a lung by dumb luck was if I hit the left lung on the way out the other side of the deer. There was basically no bloodtrail to track at all except a few small drops. I knew that there was absolutely no advantage to possibly pushing a buck that was hit bad at that point. I was tracking as blind then as I would have been in the morning. "or not shot at all" - Easy to say until you have been in the treestand every minute you can since opening day, passed up several young bucks and finally have a shot at a good one. How in the hell am I not going to shoot a good 8pt at 15yds broadside?? The only thing that I would have changed in my situation is have hit the deer in the vitals. Other than that I think I don't regret anything. If I smoked him like I should have there wouldn't have been any trakcing or any losing the deer.

Tommy Tall Tines

Got in the stand around 3pm on Saturday (OCT 29) and all was good. Was in a new spot, wind was good, it was calm, overcast, going to be a good night! By 4pm it was snowing like crazy! I couldn't see more than 75 yds out. Around 5:45 I see a deer come to my left..... "Wow that is a big bodied deer" I say to myself. At this point he was about 40yds to my left and with the snow and leaves on the trees I couldn't see his horns that well. I thought he was a big 6pt but I couldn't tell for sure. He moved into 30yds and I still wasn't sure if I wanted to shoot him because I have a couple GOOD deer that I want to shoot and I didn't want to kill a borderline buck. Believe it or not even though he was at 30yds there was so much junk in the way I still couldn't get a really good look at him but at his point I didn't think I was going to shoot him. I was calm, cool, and collective, I didn't even stand up or grab my bow because I thought I was going to let him walk. Then he came in to about 20yds and stepped into an opening...... OMG HE IS A BIG EIGHT! I CAN'T F'ING BELIEVE IT!OMG!OMG!OMG! So now I start redlining because I hadn't even prepared for the shot and I was sitting down with my bow in the hanger. I stand up grab the bow and prepare to shoot this big eight point. He is now a maximum of 15yds broadside right in front of me. I draw and go to put the pin on him and there is a leaf in the way. Instead of waiting another 5sec I redline and shoot through the leaf. I watch the big eight run away with the luminoc glowing from his side and I can see I hit him really high. I am not going to say that the branch was responsible for what happened because I think it was a combination of several things. I was excited, the deer was so close I should have shot low and I didn't(biggest mistake), it was snowing, blah blah blah I screwed up and that's all there is to it. It was snowing so hard that within minutes the little bit of blood I did find was covered up with snow. I decided to pull out and look for him in the morning because it was a lost cause at this point. Woke up in the morning after getting piss drunk that night and went to look for him. Of course we got 6" of snow overnight and now I was trying to find a deer with no tracks, no blood, no nothing! Four of us did the ol' grid pattern through the entire set of woods for hours and hours and found nothing. This is the first time this has ever happened to me and I am really upset about it because it was a really nice deer. Anyways that is the deal, big eight got away!

I think he might go 4.5. Really nice looking buck!

I would give him clse to 170 but he is a tough one to score

High 120's might hit 130 tops. Nice buck!

Nice pics!

3.5 no more than 120

2 1/2 prob around 90"

Nice video, good to see they are active in your area becasue I don't have anything like that going on by me yet.

Both deer are 1 1\2