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A couple of points. I make the assumption that the goal is not penetration per se, but the quick and humane death of your quarry. My number one goal as an ethical bow hunter, maybe not yours. Let's begin here . . . https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical_evidence Perhaps we should not discount, what, 5 or 10 thousand years of experience that a sharp object kills more quickly than a dull one. Cavewoman #1 throws a dull rock at a deer and it bounces off. Cavewoman #2 just happens by chance to throw a sharp rock and the deer starts to bleed and eventually dies. A lil thing called critical thinking kicks in, humans are pretty good at this, maybe a little evolution, and over time it just becomes common knowledge that the sharp object throwers are eating well and surviving and the folks throwing dull objects starve. Hmm . . Fast forward a bit. 2019. The same scenario would still apply would it not? But let's not base our conclusion on past experience. Let's be modern and "google it". May I suggest your inability to locate "a single actual scientific test" confirming your assumption after searching "alot" demonstrates a modern, superficial and limited examination of the subject. Step away from the keyboard, put your thinking cap on for a second and actually fire a neuron or two in your gray matter. Forming a rational, logical and informed opinion on settled subjects such as this require you to actually use that brain that's been evolving for thousands of years. If the subject is still perplexing and you indeed require some sort of experimental "test" to settle the matter, I would highly suggest you familiarize yourself with the following: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method I'd hate to see anyone spend valuable time testing a hypothesis, producing and summarizing data that cannot be scrutinized to common scientific standards. Feel free to pm your preliminary experimental design and I'd be glad to offer positive input. But seriously. A little perspective may be in order. You ll spend how many hours on stand or in the field this year waiting for your shot opportunity? Dont you owe it to your quarry, and quite frankly yourself, to ensure the greatest chance of success? So take 30m st most, sharpen them to the best of your ability. What, 3 bh to take afield? Simple.

Leland Steak Machine Model 148 Vintage unknown, just plain old. Enamel (?) over cast aluminum body, stainless food surfaces, very sharp knives. Simply put this machine is a beast. Cube and tenderize any meat product. Runs effortlessly and operates like new. Additional pics n video on request. Located in New Hartford NY. Trades considered for hunting equip, stands, long guns what have you etc. PM to discuss cash offers. Thanks so much!

Grampy. Sharpen those Muzzys, put them where they belong on your shot and be done w it! Slick tricks as well. The key to your setup, as I m sure you know, is simple. Sharp broad head in the right place = happy bow hunter.

Smokescreek guy. Outstanding! That my friends is how its done!

Just a quick update post hunt . . . Chased them for a couple more days in Va before I had to get home. We had birds gobbling most every morning but couldn't seal the deal again. Just typical turkey hunting mayhem lol, a goose cutting off two toms and running them out of the field when they were oh so close, a wicked thunderstorm and high winds for 24h, my amateurish calling etc. But fun was had by all. Just an FYI but the bird I shot had a legit 10 3/4" beard. Never seen one that long in NY. Average spurs. Looking forward to Wed. Time to get it done in NY. Best of luck to everyone this week.

Central Va. A few miles outside Farmville Va. Neat place. I ll be here the rest of the week. I have another tag and another friend showing up tonight. Gotta stay focused! A lot of new ground yet to cover.

Made it to our new spot in Va. Great start to the day. Hear Turkey, call Turkey, kill Turkey lol. Heavy bugger with a nice beard. Very fortunate. More to come!

Not sure of the tree species. Whatever kind of tree it was it served me well. There are other trees on this hedge row that might do for a stand, but man this location was right in the sweet spot, kinda like my second home lol. Will be looking for a tripod as some suggested, for 2019 and taking a closer look at my other setups this summer.

Down for the count! The neighboring landowner sent me a text in late Dec telling me the news. I wasn't able to get out to my stand site until yesterday. Sure enough, there it was. Now reduced to a mangled mess! This was my #1 gun stand I've had in the same tree going on 15 years. I never noticed any problems with the tree, always seemed sound. Thought at first it might be foul play but quickly realized probably not. So . . . I guess just a reminder, check your setup carefully each time you hunt.

Thanks for the info Odysseus. I'll be hunting 190 private acres. Just wondering what to expect bird wise for this spring. I've never hunted south of Pa for turkeys.

Anyone care to share thoughts on hunting Virginia? Specifically Prince Edward County, Central VA. Just came across access to property there and looking for any info I can get on turkey and deer hunting in the area. Many thanks.

Shot this jake Sunday morning in 6S on some private land. Sat 3 hours on a flat with lots of turkey sign but no turkeys! Slowly making my way back to the car, I rounded a corner in the corn and there they sat, a flock of about 5 at less than 20 yards! It was less than a 50 yard walk to my car. You just never know! Mossberg 935 w/ Primos choke, Winchester Longbeards #6.

Thanks for the replies. It was a Sierra Pro Hunter bullet. Not really what I'd call a "premium" bullet I guess like a NP or Barnes etc.. Don't recall how long I've had the box but it's been awhile and I'm at the end of them. Still have 20 rounds or so left. Have shot several deer with them at various velocities, mild to hot. This bullet has killed deer for me multiple times from 25 yards to 225. I've hit them though both shoulders (devastating) and through the lungs (pass throughs) and the results have always been the same - dead deer. I'd say 1 in 3 deer I've shot with this round hasn't had an exit however. Just wanted to hear other's perspective on the core separation that's all. I guess my observation is that copper and lead flying at that speed can do funny things when it hits flesh and bone and a perfect mushroom well, sometimes we get them and sometimes we don't! Thanks again and good hunting . . .

Shot a doe at 100 yards with this .308 handoad. 2700 fps 150 grain spitzer. Quartering away shot, in behind the back ribs and exit hole about the third rib back, between the ribs. Never hit bone as far as I can tell. Small exit wound assuming it was the bullet core. Found the copper underneath the skin on the far side. Nice expansion but poor bonding???? So I ask, anyone ever see a bullet like this after the fact? I'm calling it a failure even though I recovered the deer. . . .

Nice looking peppers rob. And 66 Q of tomatoes grow holy cow!!!! Don't mean to hijack but wanted to show off today's work. 15 Q of pickled veggies, cauliflower, peppers, carrots, celery and of course garlic. Good eats for the long winter. . . .

Shot a jake on Tuesday and this longbeard today at 6:15. Had my friend Zach (11) with me on his second turkey hunt. Heard some talk at 5:40 and a few gobbles. This guy showed up silent at the other end of the field and came into a single hen decoy. 25 yard shot w/ Mossberg 935 w/ #6 Longbeards ended his morning. Good luck to everyone still at it.

Ameristep Brickhouse blind NIB Utica Area $80 cash only Just in time for turkey season

x2 on the woodchuck hunting. You might have missed out on turkey this year but I've realized that after you get permission to hunt turkeys for a year or two landowners usually don't have a problem with you hunting deer. Some of my best hunting grounds were obtained by asking to hunt grouse of all things, after deer season ended. Most people don't have a problem with you hunting birds on their property. Bird hunting often leads to bigger things. The best way I've found to to get permission is knock on the neighbors door, that's to say, once I get permission on one farm try asking for permission on the neighboring properties. You'll have a common bond with your new prospect (if the neighbors like each other!) and you'll be prequalified and vouched for by the first landowner. The averages are low but once you get a seed planted in an area and gain permission, its easy to establish a common bond with the next prospect and expanding your hunting area isn't all that hard. ALWAYS have a map with you so they can draw boundries where you can and can't go. Find a mentor that'll share some of his spots with you. Ask EVERYONE that you think has huntable acreage if you can have permission. Probably most important is when you have a potential prospect is to find a common bond to talk about. Be it you both drive Ford pickups, both like John Deere tractors, you both are really pressed for time so you won't be around much . . . you get the idea. I've found that being well spoken is really a bonus for establishing a rapport and gaining permission. If you get turned down, ask the person if they know anyone that might be agreeable to you hunting their property. Remember, yes you are asking for something, a small favor really, but MOST of all you are selling yourself as a responsible sportsman and person of good character. Its not that hard if you are! Good luck.

GNRC just got the ball rolling with his post so I thought I'd add fuel to the fire. Here's two videos I shot a few years ago but they still get my blood pumping. Sorry, but I posted these vids on another website and if you've seen them my apologies! Backstory - I shot the first video opening day 2010. I'd booked a client for the first 3 days of the season and he called last minute saying he couldn't make it the first day. Poor sap he was somewhat ticked when I showed him what he missed! Second vid was a year later, nice vid of some toms strutting. 29 days to go! Enjoy! Take a child hunting or fishing!

Busting at the seams to get out. Calls n' decoys are ready. Just scored 100 more acres on Sunday to get after. Can't wait! What is up with this up with this snow though!!!! Just got 4 more inches last night! Have 8 days n' counting this spring, booked so far with clients. Good luck to everyone!

Thanks all for the comments and suggestions.

Thanks phade.

Looking for suggestions on a good pro shop in CNY. Within an hour or so of Utica, preferably someone who works on PSE bows. Anyone been to AJ's Archery in Cazenovia? Any info would be appreciated thanks!

I second Bob @ Endless Hills. He's a turkey killing machine.

The bore is in excellent condition, no pitting. Gun was always put up clean after use. Thanks.