Culvercreek hunt club

The only ones I am sure of that are benefiting out of all this is Cornell...lol

I know. just aske the dam questions you want answered. Enough of this touchy feels how does it feel crap. DO YOU WANT XXXXXXXXX--yes or no

I tried to do that and save then in the correct orientation but it wouldn't work... sorry

If they go down this road they should eliminate the tags that are given out for bow and ML deer. If you wasn to handicap the hunters they give them and equal footing for the does. ALL the does. GO to a mandatory draw for any tags to take does. Your fee and license for bow and ML just gives you extra time to take them. This puts everyone, even in the lower draw WMU's in the running for tags. Ever notice how the stores sell the licenses. punch you in. take you money and then do the permit drawing. cash in hand before you find out.

There are vast amounts of State land that a barely hunted. Might have to venture a bit but it is there.

I will skip my comments for now and let you all read a copy I was emailed. Read it an see what you think. 1.pdf 2.pdf 3.pdf 4.pdf 5.pdf 6.pdf

I agree but it is the easiest thing to do. Put on one garment and have the break up included. Sure beats stickinh branches up your sleeves, down you collar and inside you belt for comfort...lol

Every state does not have the requiremnts we do for a legal antlered buck. Texas being one of them. The classification of antlerless and antlered in NY is of itself an AR. protecting an antlered but to an arbitrary standard. 3"

Nope...just becasue you know it all.

You know it all brother.

I agree it is an antler restricion currently.

It used to be that way for the primative.

Is it an antler restriction or not, PERIOD?

Oh come on....you know you want to.

Their 7,000 person survey is a POS. I have to go back and look but I don't think that is much bigger than the last survey they did. Take a look at the new license structure for 2014 and how LOW they just made the out of state license.

We curren'ty have statewide AR's. why aren't we listed?

Gotta be really careful of any gutting operations in a vertical position. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vxxaRAxnN8 (I know it shows up every year but I had too)

Over the winter I am fabricating one of these and I won't even have to pick up the deer to place on the wheeler. http://www.mackspw.com/Item--i-FHHH?src=Y0807GL0N0N10000&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=PLA&gclid=CKGR5PmlvLoCFc2h4AodMxcADg Now if I can just find a way to scare the guts out of them!!!..LOL

I hunted Stratford a lot growing up. Shot many snowshoes up there.

Really? Why don't you and I go up in the NZ and fill our doe permits? These freaking blanket statewide comments make me sick

Interesting article. Kind of makes you think about how our whole management approack is in this State. Let me start this by saying I hunt every deer season in NY. (Not those silly ones downt there in the People Republic of NY down south..lol) with shotgun, rifle, bow and ML.---NZ and SZ. I think the whole system should be revamped rather than this little blood letting steps they keep poking at us. If they want to manage the population I think they should take a different approach especially with a new license structure. Big game license gets you A buck. Pick your implement in the appropriate season. doe are managed by doe permit ONLY. NZ and SZ. GIve the hunters that don't bow or ML hunt a shot at doe tags up there, then they can really control the take. Maybe even help the areas that are low in population. AND really take a run through the Encon law and really put teeth in the penalties for poaching. I have been in favor of the cross bow inclusion (at least a relaxing of the requirements for older or disabled hunters) and after reading that article Doc posted it made me think. What about an inclusion but not allow the use of optics? I actually wouldn't mind seeing that happen for ML again, and I use and inline with optics.

It is Govt, DOC. Don't drive yourself nuts attempting to apply common sense...lol

I know it is probably splitting hairs but I would call him on the carpet for having an untagged deer. (But I know my father wouldn't do that). But I would gladly cough up my tag for him. I have no idea how many more seasons I have with him. I wouldn't let this get in the way and I would love to see him get a slammer. Emotion vs legalities and ethics. should be a easy call for the latter but as we can see in this thread it isn't.

Is it available online, Doc?

Understood. I will say I have had older deer that did not taste as good but in all those cases they were taken in forested areas. I believe that their diet and care for the deer once it is harvested makes bigger taste difference than the age. The buck in my avatar was at least 3.5 and your could cut a steak with a fork. He spent his life in rye, soy and corn fields. The last one I took in the ADKS was some of the worst venison I have had for flavor. Their diet in that area was mostly mast and browse. Very liite AG in that area.