I decided to go sit in a spot on a creek bed. Walking in, i was kicking deer out everywhere, and kicked 6 up the ravine towards where my fil was sitting. Had 2 run right by me. After about 20 minutes I hear him shoot. He calls me and says he cant find it, it was a doe. Well, where he sits, when they get winded, or just wander off, they run into a thicket, i told him to look in there, he found it. Then, i get another call, a 6 point coming my way. After an hour, About 4:15, here he comes, but this guy wasnt a 6, he was an 8. Shot him at 41 yards. First late muzzleloader buck kill in my life. Sweet.