Meat Manager
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A little rain here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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With tracking snow I'm considering a slow and deliberate still hunt sunday. Either way rutt is just picking up and this weekend I can hunt so I'll be out there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Deer Family Drag Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Just getting out of the truck gonna drag my scent-laced tarsals in...wind will cover my noise for sure. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Predate, I have never observed any myself but at least a couple get harvested nearly every year down in Sempronius and I know some guys drive the Spafford Forest with dogs with some success. Cold Brook Exoctic farm is around those areas so Russian Boars are definitely in the mix.
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Live from the kitchen window (7j): Saw my first chase of the season as well as the first daytime deer sighting in the meadow out back since the end of september. Too bad I'm doing dishes...can't wait for 1130...hunting weekend begins! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Right, 32 - 40 degrees your just as likely to get ticks...they are looking for a warm host. That said I'd say i pull a tick off of me every other hunt, and after every single harvest. Always be looking and if you have an engorged one that has likely been on you for 24-48 hours they say to go to a dr for prophylaxis. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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That does suck. Up here calling for occasional light rain Friday, then it drops nicely and looking at good tracking snow totals in the forecast through Monday. I don't envy you but who knows maybe you'll catch a break in the weather or see your palmated albino despite the conditions. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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I went with that approach most of archery. Things are finally starting to heat up around here so I'm getting proactive.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Here's what I'm doing this weekend. I'm using tarsals from 3 of my deer harvested this season (including my archery buck) as drags with 3 different North Country scent products as well as using 3 scent bombs to try to represent 3 or more deer of both sexes: Still have a reg and a dmp so I'm hoping to fill a tag with a mature whitetail of either sex. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Looks like the Southern Breeze is going to transition into a mild to moderate Northwestern Wind accompanied by sustained lower temps and some snow. Accuweather is forecasting about 1" of snow right at sunrise Saturday morning in my area (7f). I am planning on hunting the end of the southern front Thursday pm and Friday am, and then hunting as much as possible in the cold Saturday and Sunday. I feel like this is the cold snap that is gonna be perfectly timed with late chase - peak breeding up here by weedsport. Most of the corn just came down around here...hoping all of this points to a monster! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Sweet harvest! I can not count the times I almost didn't hunt and made a last minute decision only to score...when you get that feeling Go Hunt! I've also been on the other side of that wounded deer equation with my grandfather 200 yds down the trail finishing off a seven point I hit back with a .243. It poured rain 1 hour later we would have never found him if my pop didn't have Korean War marksman training. Deer was at a full gate pop hit in the shoulder 3 times in 3 seconds. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Sad, gun season is scary and worse yet this is typical of most accidental shootings in that the hunters were members of the same party, often they are actually related. I come from pa, orange is a requirement I just carried that over to ny...when I field dress my harvests I hang all of my orange but my hat all around me. That said obviously know your target and beyond, shooting 101.
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Regular season Opening weekend. How'd you do?
Meat Manager replied to DanceswithSkunks's topic in General Hunting
Only had 2 hours to hunt so I shot the first doe that walked by around 7:03. My 5th ny harvest of 2013. -
I'm seeing mostly does myself, harvested 4 baldies (1 button) and a 3.5 yr archery buck. To be fair I've been targeting does only with North Country Just Doe doe pee since nov 3rd when i shot my archery 8 pt. Now that gun season and rut are in full swing I'll be adding NC dominant buck and NC tarsal to my scent attractant regiment to try and fill my reg tag with another 3 or better yet 4 year old.
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7j 7f and im including my buck tags in the total: 1 either sex archery/ml, 1 antler-less archery/ml, 1 reg season, 2 dmp's, 2 transferred dmp's = 7. I've harvested 4 antler-less and 1 buck...only the 1 doe in gun so I still have a reg and a dmp. Reg tag becomes either sex in late season btw.
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legally only 2 dmp's may be transferred for a total of 4 dmp's per hunter. That said with 2 bow, 1 reg and 4 dmp's I have 7 tags and have filled 5 ethically and legally.
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1) very heavy crop of apples, fox grapes, acorns, beech and walnuts. 2) yes...it is a legal antler-less harvest, but most avoid if possible 3) I have resisted hunting fields all season (oct 1st - present) because of number 1. Deer dont need that food source yet so if they are visiting it is usually after shooting hours. Best bet is woods between bedding thickets and food sources...unfortunately overgrown apple orchards make excellent bedding areas when covered with multiflora rose. Meaning they eat where they sleep.
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It is a combo of deer take numbers along with varying types of game surveys from hunters sighting logs and roadkill reports to radio tagged deer and aircraft mounted thermo-imaging inventories. It's not an exact science but it is better than hunter observations alone. Here is a resource on how to run your own trail cam survey to estimate the deer pop on your property: http://www.qdma.com/articles/how-to-run-a-trail-camera-survey Here is the form to help do the math: http://www.qdma.com/uploads/pdf/QDMA-Survey-01.pdf
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If you live in an underpopulated wmu I apologize, most of these threads are started by guys who sit one weekend.At the same time I will disagree if you believe the DEC is responsible for low numbers. Other ecological factors are much more significant.
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Bubba in with you on nuisance tags, and if you don't get a lot of permits then I certainly believe your wmu is underpopulated. I'm hunting weedsport/Cato in 7f above the thruway...lots of deer but my sighting were low until all the corn came down.
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I am starting to see the hunter pressure thing your way. I think I would rather work harder to find deer than see more slob hunters in the woods tho. But even the much lower number of hunters is an explaination of what seems to some like an obscene numbers of dmp's being handed out. Again only 17% get filled.
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I appreciate that doc knows his stuff and I willingly admit that each state agencies management plan is going to have a similar but differently proportioned composition of these groups determining the management plan. Deer on windshields is a big problem. That said, I work within the confines of whatever states management plan I am hunting under. The CTF's goals are crafted into a management plan by wildlife biologists and ecologists. Regardless who is making the rules the results have been a decline in poor health deer herds and a greater population according to deer take/game survey numbers nearly every year since antler-less liberalization in the 90's.
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I do trust wildlife biologist and ecologist working for dec...but I admittedly don't even know where you hunt so I am not denying the possibility of fewer deer in your area, I am just saying its unlikely. When I see a question like where are all the deer my first answer is "moving around at night." I imagine your answer is more like "Obama took all my deer!"
