mike rossi

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I am not sure, but there may be other laws against wanton waste on the books. In other states there definitely are ww laws than are farther reaching than migratory game birds. You might want to know that migratory game birds are not just ducks, geese, and swans. They are also mourning doves, rails, coots, snipe, and woodcock. Double check on crows - I am not sure, there has been too much discussion on the subject, and since I don't hunt them, I have not paid attention. Note according to the law I posted it DOES include crows. The federal migratory bird law regarding wanton waste is similar, except it includes other species that are not hunted in NY such as swans, mourning doves, sand hill cranes, and a few others. If accused of wanton waste of migratory game birds, you will be charged with two violations - of state law, and of federal law. Here is a general article about the topic, scroll down to it if necessary: http://www.huntthenorth.com/wantonwaste.html

You have to retrieve migratory game birds immediately and take them into possession: Second Sodus opener (Wayne County) With the weather mild and Sodus Bay’s water not iced over, ECOs Aaron Gordon and Kevin Thomas knew it was going to be a big second season waterfowl opener in 2013. The two officers set up in a discreet location and watched as approximately 40 hunters lined the shoreline waiting for birds to fly by. The officers checked over 130 ducks that came back to the boat launch and, for the most part, the hunters obeyed the rules very well. At one point the officers did watch a group of 10 individuals shoot several ducks, and then as they became busy with more ducks overhead they left the already dead ducks to float away. This group received tickets for “wanton waste” for their lack of effort to retrieve waterfowl they had taken. The full law regarding migratory game birds is in section Q under Title 6, here: https://govt.westlaw.com/nycrr/Document/I21bf3a8bc22211ddb7c8fb397c5bd26b?viewType=FullText&originationContext=documenttoc&transitionType=CategoryPageItem&contextData=(sc.Default)

There is a gun culture and there is a hunting culture. They are not the same and are as different as day and night. The trouble makers want to conflate the two. The hunting culture is much closer to the food culture than the gun culture.....

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That is why I am making a commentary of sorts on your statement. If we do not chose our words carefully, the entire context gets changed. There are about 12 million hunters in the United States. You never met a hunter without an opinion, and neither have I. How many times do these opinion have merit? Ask the DEC staff the same question. Check out the our recent pheasant article I mentioned. You will find it a valuable reference.

Or, save your money and enjoy a hunt that equals wild birds by hunting when no other hunters are around. Which, outside of the greater NYC area, is most of the time.

They are not experienced hunters, that is why, and the so-called easy pheasant, isn't easy at all. Those inexperienced hunters who are willing to listen need to be taught. The smart guys are a lost cause. I would never say a pheasant is "dumb". Birds are smarter than mammals first of all, and second pheasant are among the smartest birds. That is why they can fool most hunters a few hours (not a few days) after release. If this was not true, why would certain elements waste the effort trying to pinpoint and follow the stocking truck if they were otherwise easy? People need to understand pheasant stocking programs of state wildlife agencies including the DEC start at the egg and differ very much from the regimes of private or commercial entities that raise or stock pheasant.. State Agencies are mindful of inbreeding and outcross with Manchurian pheasant and other strains to produce a smart and wary bird that does not tame easily and enhance those genetics by raising them in isolation as much as possible. We just published an article about this subject on our website, go look at it. Also, I am not so sure Bill is correctly characterizing New Jersey's program. Some of Jersey's release sites exceed 5,000 acres and I believe they stock at night when it is dark. In contrast, some NY sites the actual release sites are smaller chunks within a larger land tract and the releases occur in daylight.

NYC Hunters are STILL not organized! We have attempted to reach out to NYC hunters in an effort to not only organize them in the mourning dove initiative, and protect the State Pheasant Farm, but also to organize them in general. There is absolutely no reason NYC hunters cannot develop a member list, maintain NYC-specific social media, a website, and their own e-newsletter, and a forum if they desire. They can also do what several hundred upstate organizations do, and have dozens of local state assembly and senate members attend their meetings and discuss hunting-related matters. NY Dove Hunting is willing to help NYC hunters create a website, social media, newsletter, and forum, as we did for New Jersey hunters regarding their initiative to legalize Sunday firearm hunting. However, we cannot administer the organization for you. This is where NJ is failing, at least for now. We cannot recruit, organize, and do what needs to be done at the local grassroots level. And, unfortunately, due to lobbying by state hunting organizations under the notion it is in the best interest of the hunter (privacy, etc), it is difficult for us to obtain a list of licensed hunters from the DEC. There are probably between 50,000 and 70,000 licensed hunters in NYC, not including Long Island. NYC hunters will not be counted until they are organized separately from state and national hunting organizations. NY Dove Hunting has already been corresponding with downstate legislators, including those in NYC. They are not as smug some would lead you to believe. If you help us, together we can nail this. Contact us through our website and lets get this going!

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Doc, If I hunt the same hole every few days, even if I was over a food plot or I broke the law and baited, ducks would either vacate or feed nocturnally. The DEC (or me) cannot be neither a polemicist nor a remedial tutor for grown men who play with guns and arrows. Regarding your first paragraph; I believe there are how many bow hunters in NY , 35,000? What is the doe harvest among those hunters? Because if you look at deer reproductive biology, killing say 1,000 does makes a huge difference especially over three years are so. Click on the image below so it is more readable, and use your imagination. Then, you have to consider the culture of using does as bait for bucks. The DEC may be more aware of hunter behavior than you think.

I don't really want to interrupt the topic, but if you are excessively having to pick pellets out of small game then you need to reevaluate the shot size, choke, and distance you are shooting. Your comment concerns me , because we hear this sort of thing all the time, even from "outdoor writers" and it is a matter of not enough experience with hunting and/or not paying attention. As time passes, fewer and fewer people that actually hunt are writing the articles, working for the DECs, teaching hunter education/gun safety, and running the hunting organizations, we can't let misconceptions slide any longer. Sometimes, shooting at 40 or more yards can result in more, not less pellets in meat, than game shot at moderate range - because at 40 plus yards pellets wont pass completely through, especially when tight chokes are used. Shot up meat happens occasionally, but if the so-called "shot-laced" meat occurs more than occasionally, its time to rethink.

If you are referring to my earlier comments, your statement is a poor interpretation of what I said.

I think it has more to do with Phase 2 of the deer management strategy. The DEC very clearly warned hunters that if they do not shoot does, and shoot them early in the season, they will implement phase 2. Phase 2 includes a regulation change which allows the use of muzzleloaders in archery season. The argument that gun noise makes deer go nocturnal can not be made against air guns. Perhaps the DEC decided to modify the Phase 2 strategy and allow air guns instead of muzzleloaders.

They are doing what they believe benefits the constituents of the high crime district they represent, that is how the narrative goes anyway. On the other hand, an anti gun stance might yield endorsements and/or contributions from anti gun organizations, especially if they are proactive and habitually introduce gun control bills. Doc is right though, these bills can gain traction. But what exactly does the OP want the owners of hunting guns to do? And what action is he taking?

The two legislators who are sponsoring this bill, admit that the bill is ambitious and say it is a starting point for discussion and negotiation. They themselves don't even believe it will pass as written.

Big storms in the midwest might bring Christmas presents to waterfowl hunters. I will be out there.

Ray, This is a DEC rule change. Does it require Legislative approval?