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[table][tr][td] [table][tr][td] # 1 [/t][/c][/t] [table][tr][td] BigOutdoors Super Moderator http://www.cthuntingnshooting.com/vBforum/image.php?u=8&dateline=1225752375[/img] Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: brooklyn,ct Posts: 2,442 http://www.cthuntingnshooting.com/vBforum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif[/img] [/t] http://www.cthuntingnshooting.com/vBforum/images/icons/icon1.gif[/img] Dirks: Managing deer herd is complicated business Dirks: Managing deer herd is complicated business "It's not your grandfather's deer herd," goes the classic Dick Henry line when the subject of the deer herd in New York comes up. Henry, a well-respected and retired big-game biologist with the state Department of Environmental Conservation, spent 40 years of his career up to his neck in big game. He and three other experts recently held court at a workshop sponsored by Sterling Forest State Park. Jim Gell, wildlife manager at Sterling Forest, developed this particular workshop focusing on deer herd management for a good reason. During the 2009-10 big-game season, the park developed a modified antler restriction plan, designed to protect most yearling bucks from being hunted. Gell's intent was to educate Sterling Forest hunters on the various aspects of herd management in the context of antler restrictions. In addition to Henry, the other presenters included Matt Ross, Wayne Masters, and Mark Rogers. In the next few columns, I'll share some interesting highlights from this workshop series. In the absence of hunting or natural predation, a deer herd can grow by 35 percent every year. Henry pointed out that our current deer herd stands at about 825,000 statewide, down from a peak of 1.2 million in 2000. Hunting remains one of the most effective methods of controlling deer herds. "Every buck out there has a sister somewhere," Henry said. Depending on the season, hunters sometimes feel the ratio of does to bucks is skewed in favor of does. Four decades of field research and experience has told Henry something different. The overall ratio of does to bucks in most game areas remains closer to 1:1. Just because we see more does than bucks doesn't mean that the ratio is skewed toward does. Hunters typically go through a four-stage growth cycle during their careers. The first, Henry said, is the "shooter stage." This is where beginning hunters are happy to shoot deer without discrimination of size or sex. The "limiting out" stage is when a hunter looks to fill every tag he can find during a season. At some point we progress to the "hunting method" stage, when we often focus on one particular method of hunting. For example, perhaps bowhunting becomes your preferred method over rifle hunting. The last stage is "participation" stage, when we are just happy to be out in the field whether we shoot anything or not. For older hunters, that seems to fit nicely. Henry pointed out some data that is not good news for hunters. In 1990, there were about 600,000 big-game hunters in New York between the ages of 16 and 64. By 2008, that number had dropped to 425,000. If that trend continues, and there's every indication it will, there won't be enough deer hunters statewide to have much effect on the deer herd. David Dirks' outdoors column appears weekly. Contact him through his website, www.dirksoutdoors.com. __________________ http://www.bigfishtackle.com/cgi-bin/gforum/gforum.cgi http://nedisabledsportsmen.com/ NATURES BETTER WITH BUTTER This is certainly food for thought[/td][/tr][/table][/td][/tr][/table][/td][/tr][/table]

Just remember NYS does not manage the deer herd for the hunter. They use hunters to manage the deer herd. They manage the deer herd to meet the carrying capacity of the land. That means things like vehicle accidents, crop damage, and property damage to residential area's are taken into consideration when making decisions on herd management. Spot on with your comment Wellesley! What you posted describes the DEC's mandate.

+1 It sure appears at second glance to look like a photoshop.

I would imagine, short term results would equate to more bucks being seen chasing fewer does. Killing to many does and add in winter mortality is seemingly a recipe for disaster. Lets first get a handle on the deer population in a given area and determine the carrying capacity of the habitat before whacking does in order to get more buck sightings. Larry, bucks are delivered by the stork!

For me the excitement of seeing a deer while hunting remains the same. I guess that is one of the reasons that keeps me coming back year after year. I just cannot get enough! I met my wife while dear-hunting 30 years ago.

Doc, Canned hunts are available for those who can afford them. However, just like guys I know who can catch "fish in a barrel", we refer to them as "sharpies" down here on Long Island;there are hunters who are continually successful because they too are "sharpies". I both envy them and applaud their efforts.

Just like unhuntable private land adjacent to high pressured public and private land.

I was fitted with Miracle -Ears some years back and I am glad I did. You are correct that they take some time getting used to but be reminded in the long run they will improve ones quality of life. Good luck to you!

Steve, Google Search "Animal Rights Groups in Upstate NY".

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iIwould find a new fiance! Only kidding, sell the mount!

Lucky guy.... ;D I have a daughter in college! Enough said!

From personal experience, all I can say is build up a pile of "brownie points" with your better half, lest your time afield this autumn will be curtailed

That is not the point, debate is welcome and important! Clearly, the anti-hunter bias and their attempts to eliminate hunting is a serious issue which requires consideration and discussion amongst the hunting fraternity.

Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on now, some will try to find anything to defend him. I wouldn't disagree that a guide, if he had one, should have pointed out what is legal and what's not. But, the bottom line is that this is Nugent's TV show, and Nugent is the one defending hunting and gun rights all over the airwaves, so ultimately it's he who will get the heat here, and rightfully so. If it were some liberal anti-gun or anti-hunting person who was caught doing something, it would be safe to say that Nugent would surely not be giving them the benefit of the doubt, even if there were some legitimate doubt. He made his bed, now he has to sleep in it I'm afraid. Lets all wait to see what he has to say about the incident. If he has any spine he will admit his mistake. If not, he has sold out! I am betting on the latter. Both for financial gain and ego Teddy Huntingame will offer no comment. Perhaps some of his sponsors should drop him!

The following may seem as a sop box thread on my part; but nonetheless: While the introduction of crossbows, AR,QDM etc constitute important issues amongst the hunting community that are worth debating, what many of our fellow hunters do not realize is the magnitude of the efforts undertaken by the anti-hunters to stop hunting altogether. The antis feed on our divisiveness and as we should all realize is that they readily publish some of the rhetoric posted by our fellow hunters to support their positions to recruit new members to their cause. Several posters to this forum, Sits in particular (you may not like him, oh well!) have posted comments regarding the efforts of anti hunters to abolish our right to hunt. Few if any posters have replied to such. All I can say, (perhaps it is doom and gloom) is that the hunting fraternity better wake up and fast!

No doubting the spin part!

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http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/47743.html The link will guide you to the NYSDEC's DMP Process.

As a lifelong bow-hunter, hunting primarily with a recurve, you perhaps neglected to include archers who use compound bows as "opportunist also! Lets be fair, just a reminder.

In that case, I am sure that you support getting rid of shoot thru ground blinds and tree stands. Both extremeley effective methods to hide the draw. Might add any bow with letoff also - greater the let off, the easier to draw and hold while the deers head is hidden and wait for the shot. All this arguing makes me yearn for the simpler days when bows were whittled from Osage orange and mulberry saplings. Arrows were wooden,fletched with turkey feathers, bow strings were made of sinew and broad heads were flint knapped. Ah, those were the days.

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