bubba

I truly do not care either. As I said we can either agree to disagree or you can throw your tude around. either way I am good. Just do me one favor and call a local ffl and ask about ordering a new frame without a set of stocks.

My information came directly from an attorney friend I have who researched it advised me on this. I plan to follow his advice.

you feel free to do what you want to and think is legal. I plan to error to the side of caution. You can buy a used frame and do whatever you please, even though it s designated at the factory as pistol or long gun. . YOU CAN NOT BUY a brand new frame without a set of stocks and you can not get both sets with a new frame. I hope you do not end up in prison with a roomie named bubba lol or worse yet someone else who follows this advice does. How in the world does ny state interpretation of the law supercede atf? I guess we have to agree to disagree, but believe me when I say I hope you do not get in trouble with this. If I am wrong I am wrong and the worst I did was purchase an extra frame. . But if I am right, I would prefer to buy legally and do legally as the law states. Bubba out.

The Thompson/Center Court viewed the parts within the conversion kit not only as a Contender pistol, but also as an unassembled „rifle‰ as defined by 26 U.S.C. 5845©. The inclusion of the rifle stock in the package brought the Contender pistol and carbine kit within the "intended to be fired from the shoulder" language in the definition of rifle at 26 U.S.C. 5845©. Id. at 513 n.6. Thompson/Center did not address the subsequent assembly of the parts. United States v. Ardoin, 19 F.3d 177, 181 (5th Cir. 1994). Based on the definition of „firearm‰ in 26 U.S.C. I DO NOT WANT TO DRAG THIS OUT BUT ERE IS THE KICKER. THOMPSON CENTER CAN NOT AND DOES NOT SELL A NEW FRAME WITH BOTH STOCKS. IF YOU DID NOT BUY THE GUN FROM THEM THAT WAY IT CAN NOT BE CONVERTED. IF YOU BUY THE STOCKS SEPARATELY IT CAN NOT BE DONE. WITHOUT FILLING OUT PAPERS AND PAYING 200 DOLLARS. AGAIN THIS IS WHY WHEN YOU GO TO A DEALER AND BUY A TC FRAME YOU HAVE TO SPECIFY IF YOU WANT IT SET UP FOR RIFLE OR HANDGUN. YOU CAN NOT LEGALLY BUY ONE WITH BOTH SETS OF STOCKS SO THE ABOVE PART I COPIED FROM WNY REPLY SAYS IF THEY CAME IN A PACKAGE TOGETHER. YEARS AGO WHEN THE CONTENDER FIRST CAME OUT YOU COULD. THEN WITH ALL THE COURT STUFF TC AGREED TO NOT SELL THEM AS A KIT ANY LONGER SO YOU CAN NOT JUST SWITCH THEM OUT.

Thank you for visiting ATF's Website. As stated on our site, generally, we do not answer technical questions via e-mail, but I contacted our Firearms Technology Branch (FTB) and was advised the following: "If you have a new Thompson Center Contender frame that has never been made into a rifle, then the frame is neither a pistol nor a rifle frame. At that point, the frame may be legally manufactured into either a pistol or a rifle. If at any time the frame was made into a rifle, the following procedures must be followed: As you may be aware, the National Firearms Act (NFA), 26 U.S.C. § 5845(a), defines the term "firearm" to include the following: ...(1) a shotgun having a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length; (2) a weapon made from a shotgun if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length; (3) a rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length; (4) a weapon made from a rifle if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length; (5) any other weapon, as defined in subsection (e); (6) a machinegun; (7) any silencer (as defined in 18 U.S.C. § 921); and ( a destructive device. The term "firearm" shall not include an antique firearm or any device (other than a machinegun or destructive device) which, although designed as a weapon, the...[u.S. Attorney General]...finds by reason of the date of its manufacture, value, design, and other characteristics is primarily a collector's item and is not likely to be used as a weapon. Certain categories of firearms are subject to registration and tax provisions of the National Firearms Act (NFA), 26 U.S.C. Chapter 53. As defined in the NFA, Section 5845(a)(4), the term "firearm" means, "a weapon made from a rifle if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length." It is unlawful for a person to make or possess such a firearm that is not registered to such person in accordance with the provisions of the NFA. Making a Thompson Contender rifle into a handgun having an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length would constitute the making of a weapon from a rifle and, therefore, production of a "firearm" as defined in the NFA. In order for you to make a single shot handgun from a Thompson Contender rifle frame, you need to submit a completed ATF Form 1 - Application to Make and Register a Firearm with the National Firearms Act Branch (NFA), 244 Needy Road, Martinsburg, WV 25405. The application must include a set of your fingerprints, your photograph, $200.00, and you must have the local chief law enforcement official certify that he/she has no information that you will use the firearm for unlawful purposes and that the making and possession of the firearm is not in violation of State law. You must also answer the questions on the form about being a prohibited person. Upon confirmation of registration of the weapon with NFA, you may then make a single shot handgun using a Thompson Center Contender rifle receiver. Also, we advise that you contact local authorities to determine if there are any State laws or local ordinances affecting this conversion. We thank you for your inquiry and trust the foregoing has been responsive." I found this on a website

I have been looking but hate to pull the trigger. Mine is paid off and I hate the payment.

ok I have been thinking about a new tacoma, maybe it is time before my truck falls apart

Sweet I am so there.

you can install a regular encore barrel but not a contender

I did stick mine in the oven. Then I remembered I have an electric oven.

You would be better off reading the reg guide to get the regs.

yeah it is a decent sized ring. it goes on the barrel stud. It just allows for a little more space

I was just curious. No biggie catching by there I would not want to take them home and fry them just yet

I have a 2000 s10 4wd extended cab. I love it. Has 113 thou on it and still running strong. My next one will be a colorado. I had one silverado never again. Gas hog for sure. When I got this s10, I got rid of an 1983 s10. If the frame had not rotted, I would still be driving it.

there are a few tweaks that really help the H&R to shot better. Is the forend touching the barrel at all? If it is you can place an oring on the stud for the forend screw which pretty much floats it. When you shoot off a bag have the front bag as close to the hinge as possible. In essence keep the pressure off the barrel. These two things should increase accuracy.

I know things are different in different areas of the state but us trout season open? It isnt here until 4/1

in the eyes of the law a bow is considered a firearm. And if you are inside 500 feet of a neighbors dwelling you are illegal regardless if you are in your garage or your bedroom. The law also stipulates unless you have permission to do so. Go ask the neighbor for permission and get it in writing and all is good.

since it is a bow why not in the umm archery forum there is now

I wonder what stupidity got blamed on before there was cell phones.

I think we should let them text and walk. It will cull the herd

well now I am offended. I have two blonde daughters who are very well educated and do very well. Stereotyping like this is just as sexist as anything even if it is coming from a female. On the other hand, I find it funny and am just kidding anyway.

Ed I checked out your fb page. Nice profile pic.

man can you sat A.D.D.

I am a trustee of this club and it is where I teach. We have put a lot into the walleye program. Glad to see the support come back http://centralny.ynn...ning-site-24-7/ the guy in the pics by the water with the hat on is retired eco leiutenant Larry Kring. I am good friends with him and he teaches hunter ed with me as well as the vice president of the black lake fish and game club. Any of you guys who come to black lake to fish walleyes can thank him for the program, as it has been his baby for 20 years.

up until now that was a well kept secret. Thanks Ed