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looked to me like the amount of hunter's was way down in my area as well.

but he had breakfast at the local diner in his hunting clothes prior to going out in the morning, and rumor has it he shot the deer 45 seconds before sunrise according to someone else's watch.......

I saw a guy pumping gas in his camo during archery season with a bloody deer strapped to the hood of his car with the body cavity propped open for all to see, slob archery hunter..........fast forward to this weekend, same scenario, slob gun hunter........the average person doesn't distinguish between the two, and neither should we.

and for all you public land hunters, urinating in public is against the law.........if you gotta go make sure you leave stand and go somewhere private, would hate to see you get nailed for breaking that one.

my app is a $25.00 Timex........I'm not gonna worry about a 2-3 minute difference.

next time just guzzle 2 or 3 before the trek home, that should hold you over............just hope you don't have to stop and urinate on the side of the road on the way, that's another violation they could get you on.

I shoot it out of my Winchester 1300 and my brother out of his Mossberg 500.............we have no reason to ever try other slugs.

it doesn't.....

you've never heard a gunshot that resulted in a miss? or someone have to shoot a gun more than once to finish off a deer that is flopping around after a bad first shot? of course you have, that's what some of those multiple gunshots are for....to suggest that Archers are more responsible than gun hunters is silly...I had a tracking dog for years and tracked a lot of deer for Archery hunters, much more than gun.........and after getting my fill of bad shots that should never have been taken, and B.S. stories to drag me out in the middle of the night, I gave it up. It's not until we expand outside of our little world where we like to think that everyone acts like we do, that we get to see what really goes on.

too bad bows don't make noise when discharged.......I bet if we could hear every miss, multiple shots at spine and gut shot cripples, etc, they would be no better than the gun hunters, would they?

while that is entirely true, there is no place for the irresponsible hunter who buys a gun the night before he intends to use it and the first shot he takes with it is at a deer.

that ranks right up there with all the guys decked out in hunting clothes at the local feed store buying corn.....

yeah, I could have easily and safely shot deer well before sunrise and well after sunset on Saturday.......but, I didn't.

that's why hunters hate other hunters.....other people hate hunters for a whole slew of other reasons, and after some of the hunters I encountered this weekend, I don't blame them.

I once watched my friend cycle every round out of his bolt action while "shooting" at a deer..........he never pulled the trigger once.

aren't groups measured from the center shot out in a circle that encompasses all three shots and not straight across from the two outer most shots?

sometimes something as petty as a brake light out will get you stopped, and unfortunately that may lead to bigger things....keep your car up to snuff and all you're paperwork organized and easily accessed, to many people have to fumble around digging through piles of crap to find that stuff....not very advantageous to the driver and occupants of the vehicle.

well now you know......and nothing worse than driving into someones blinding headlights, I always tell people don't draw attention to yourself and you'll be fine.

I was being sarcastic....my opinion is totally the opposite of my post.

Hey, deer hunting is serious business, no room for guys who think it's supposed to be "fun"...............you know what they say "go big or go home"

these guys are in their 70's, I don't think they have the resources or are in the best of health to go out and scout new places.........let me know when you get to that age how you would feel about it...and let's not bank on passionate hunters keeping the hunting tradition going in this state, my guess is the amount of casual hunters far outnumbers the amount of truly passionate / die hard deer hunters.

so far I know two hunters who no longer hunt due to antler restrictions, older guys who routinely made the trip to NY from FL every November to deer hunt.......I'm willing to bet it'll discourage a lot of new hunters and older hunters who have to pass on what they would have been thrilled to kill before we see a turn around of guys running to NY and dumping money into the economy because of the monster deer that may or may not eventually be around.............just my thoughts.

they should mix it up a little in those areas, you get a doe tag as your regular tag and have to pay extra for a chance at a buck tag..........now that would be interesting.

true, but I'm not forced to buy one if I chose not to in order to go deer hunting........and unless I'm mistaken, DEC said AR's are more of a hunter request than something that is needed for sound deer management.

or buck tags in mandatory antler restriction zones should be deeply discounted.....why should we pay the same and have restrictions on our tags while others still have a free for all and can shoot any legal buck on their tag?