jjb4900

how far are you from the starting point?

you would need to add the bone structure to that illustration to get an idea of how that shot angle could go bad.

out of a treestand or ground level?

I'm gonna guess you hit shoulder......keep in mind that anything cut with a razor is gonna bleed like crazy in the beginning and probably eventually clot up if it's not fatal. If you ever gave yourself a good cut with a knife, think about how much it bled, if you just let it bleed and walked 500 yards, it would leave a good trail or if you stood in one spot it would leave a pretty good puddle.......we have 6 pints of blood, if you took one pint and dumped it out it would look like a crime scene, but it wouldn't kill you to lose that much....... But, I hope I'm wrong.

oh, that's not good............

they're working wonders in my area, instead of a few small 6pts, 4pts and spikes, now we have a lot.......

but you're obviously thinking about it...

I had some tough loading with some bullets...been using Hornady SST's with the red sabots...no problems since....need to swab between every 3rd shot or so but that's it.

actually, NY is low on the list of hunting accidents....

I agree 100%....maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think many have a problem with a hunter taking a few minutes of leeway with shooting hours....the problem lies with those who go out with the "screw the law" attitude and they're going to shoot as long as they can see.........after all, not all watches are exact, but they are or should be fairly close in keeping time.

people push the boundaries of the law with hopes of not getting caught on a daily basis no matter what it may be, speeding, cell phone usage while driving, rolling through stop signs, trying to beat red lights, you name it...more lives have been changed forever by people breaking the vehicle and traffic law then all hunting violations combined. It's all the same, and for those who break all the other petty laws, but chastise another for doing the same on another, I say stop and take a look in the mirror before taking on a holier than thou attitude.

what if you bring out a deer that has obviously been dead for a day and have it tagged for a day later? myself?, I don't start hunting another deer until the one I shot previously is recovered. I would go back looking for it with the weapon I shot it with and tag it for the day I shot and it obviously died.........I would think you would have problems if you brought out a stiff deer tagged for that day and it's obvious it died a day earlier and with a different weapon....

I love these trapping threads....keep em coming.

11/08

In many cases, if you get arrested for something, the arrest itself usually remains on your record......the outcome may not be what the original charge was for, but the arrest stays on your record nonetheless........some people will risk anything to get a deer, they ain't worth it as far as I'm concerned.

I don't understand how anyone could feel comfortable hunting or going onto land that isn't public land or land that they don't have unquestionable permission to be on. Someone other than the property owner can be given the authority to enforce trespassing laws....

there's a big difference between climbing into your stand with the intention of staying as late as possible and shooting a deer a minute after your watch says it's quitting time........unless there's a way for everyone to perfectly synchronize their watch with the big watch in DEC Headquarters it will never be an exact science.

I guess we have several types of people.....those who pick and choose what laws to follow, those who really do follow all the laws, and those who break any law that stands in the way of them accomplishing their goals........

if sunset is 6:40....is legal shooting over at the time my watch strikes 6:40 or the second before it strikes 6:41?..........that's a whole minute, so good to know.

I liken it to the speed limit, the majority of us exceed the limit by a few mph, but are smart enough to not act recklessly and travel at dangerous speeds......unless someone is gonna tell us they NEVER speed or break any traffic laws.

so the gunfire in Fallujah, Iraq isn't that bad..thanks for the info.

I recommend that everyone stay off of state land, it is not safe and chances are you will be killed by a stray bullet..........run while you still can!!

so you shot at 45?

sunset is not a "prediction", it's an exact time for the zone you are in.....

the overwhelming majority of shooting accidents occur between members of the same hunting party...........not strangers.