SteveB

Not one thing you listed would have prevented what happened today. Care to try again?

Define mental illness.

Please give examples of the type of laws you think would make a difference. Be specific.

And maybe even for all outdoor activities by everyone during those seasons.

Great advice. You then know what you are dealing with in advance.

More rumors and alleged sightings - this one at 65 mph. All without a lick of proof or verification - as is always the case.

Thanks Eddie - didn't check after posting it.

CD - sent you a PM.

From: http://www.cdc.gov/m...ml/00044112.htm In 1992, DEC initiated a campaign in New York to promote basic firearms safety and the use of hunter orange clothing through hunter education courses, meetings with hunter organizations, and advertisements in hunting literature. During 1992-1995, following the initiation of this safety promotion campaign, the average annual injury rate decreased 27% compared with the rate during 1988-1991. Rate dropped 27% in the 3 years when the educational program started. Wonder what it is today? Also interesting would be the % wearing BO voluntarily in 1992 when the program started to now 20 years later. Would also be interesting to hear the rate of compliance for NY and the bordering states where it is mandatory.

Griz - your statement " When almost every state around you has as good or better safety stats and they hunt 1/2 hour before to a 1/2 hour after " sure sounded like you had some kind of of chart or list of states with safety stats and hunting times. It seems you do not and were stating a feeling and not necessarily fact.

I only asked because it sounded like you must have had them to be making that statement.

Specifically looking for the accidents rates that are as good or better with the 1/2 hr before and after rule. The ones referred to in: Would like the actual rates to back up the statement. Thanks

Could we see the statistics for that?

So you can't discuss an issue without swearing? I have nothing to do with moderation or the running of the site, but feel strongly points can and should be made without cursing/swearing.

Sounded like he was asking if it was legal or not. Don't believe he was looking for opinions/points on whether or not any one other than himself would do so. Also didn't sound as if he was concerned with not making the 1st shot count - but rather having a faster 2nd shot at an additional deer.

I like it. If I was in the market for a new one, would be on my short list.

200,000 is the adjusted take - not the actual reported. If you have different figures, post them up.

Even if broken! If something is not working, doing more of the same will not change it. It is broken - looking for discussion on how to fix it.

General question: So shorter hours and more non academic events will help stop the down hill slide of US education? It is going down hill - what's the answer?

I don't know anybody who gunhunts and doesn't wear bo. Don't understand how another law would change that.

You can hunt closer than 500 ft - just need permission. Same permission you are going to need to recover a deer that doesn't tip over at the shot and runs a bit.

Don't need to reduce the 500 ft - you can hunt closer than 500 ft now with permission. The same permission you need to recover an animal that runs a bit before dropping.

No thanks. There is nothing positive to be gained by participating. Only the possibility of negative conclusions. I don't see the forum or NYS sportsman as being fodder for some unnecessary research paper for a class project.

Post info here or or my opinion is that it is a trolling poll. Profile has zero info. Not buying it as legit.

Setup wanting hunters to admit to being violators.