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Thanks Joe - I was hoping posting this proposal would generate more discussion and the realization for some why points based is not the cure all every where. I think a good share of the responders here didn't even bother to read it before chiming in with the same ole same ole - from both sides. -
August - are you aging these mature whitetails?
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Actually Joe my only interest in antlers is how they are a poor indicator of age and not a sound way to manage a herd in some areas of NY - like the areas in the proposal that started the thread. There must be some merit to what the proposal put forth, because few of the mandatory points based AR people here wish to discuss it and seem intent to make this just another AR thread.
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If it doesn't protect 1.5's, what does it possibly do to help? It protects most of the 1.5's John - his words "I don't think it protects 1.5 yr olds" is what I questioned. In fact the study that started this thread shows in these areas, it does not protect most 1.5's. In fact, it protects only about 40% of them and few bucks actually would get to 3.5 under a 3pt/side rule here. The whole purpose of my posting the study was to show that a blanket statement like AR's would protect 1.5's cannot be made for NYS.
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No they are not. But if you have hunted your own land for years and then had to drive a couple hours to attempt to find a place to hunt might just discourage more then a few hunters to keep at it.
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If it doesn't protect 1.5's, what does it possibly do to help?
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Outstanding!!!
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All great deer guys - but I kind of started the thread to feature some of the bucks coming out of CNY/central NY.
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That is the single most important issue, but the most ignored one in these discussions.
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And any of this has what to do with the proposal that started this thread?
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Greg's Archery is less then 15 miles south of Auburn in Moravia. He does a nice business fixing things the Auburn Bass Pro has screwed up and his prices are competitive with anything BP sells. Pm me if you want details.
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Use a pellet stove (I am a rep). Occupied living area 70 to 74 - bedroom is mid 60's.
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http://www.mississippigameandfish.com/hunting/whitetail-deer-hunting/ms_aa122902a/index.html But we shouldn't hijack this thread.
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More then a few gun only hunters complain about bowhunters getting 1st crack at bucks for 4 weeks. Try to make it legal to fill 2 buck tags during bow and we will quickly find out how outnumbered we are. BAD IDEA.
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Another one here - wow!! http://blog.syracuse.com/outdoors/2010/11/17-pointer.html
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Proper to who? Make it "more natural" according to whose definitions? We haven't had a natural herd in over 200 years.
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Then maybe we should make it all natural and do away with hunting - health of herd and all that ...........
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As well it should.
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All bows in bow - all guns in gun. It's really that simple.
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Cato buck was confirmed as a texting hoax.
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Allright!!!!!
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Is this going too far, to control land and deer population?
SteveB replied to mossy725's topic in Deer Hunting
Pretty much proven that hubting and even hunting/trapping will do little to control the populations. It's been tried about everywhere - 2/3 or more need to be removed every year for several years, and even then the population will rebound quickly if habitat and food are available. Not saying not to try, but to be realistic about possible results. -
Check out what is going on in Gettysburg.
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There is another thread running about this one - let's not let this thread get too derailed. i will try to either confirm or bust the Cato buck in the next couple days, but will do it in the other thread. The other 3 I know are legit as I either know the people or someone I trust handled them. To stay on track, here is another CNY buck from 09 in Genoa - confirmed.
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What was the draw length of the bow she tried? If it was too long, it could make it harder for it. Have her try a bow that fits.