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NAAAW....You're just jealous of my rugged good looks, finely chiseled physique and magnetic personality...

" Mere Mortals "...???... " Spam Suckin' Trailer Trash" might be a more accurate term...<<grin>>...

A buck deer with a "B-B".....( Big Bunghole)....

I haven't had any experience with the factory loads, but I have been loading the Win 150 power point in a 30-06 handload that approximates factory load velocities for a friend for years. It groups well and he's killed a bunch of whitetails, mule deer, antelope, caribou and 1 black bear with my handloads with no problems. I would think that's a pretty fair endorsment for the bullet.

WOW !! What a great prize to win... Lucky guy.... Thanks for sharing...Those stone sheep are cool.... I can remember when you could do a stone hunt for 5-6K...THOSE days are long gone.

Ain't no deer in Steuben County...<<grin>>... Welcome aboard... This is a good place to share some info and have some fun, IF you don't take stuff TOO seriously.....

Hey, ya never know.. I once shot an elephant in my pajamas... Wait a minute...I don't WEAR pajamas...!!

Remember, Larry, you're pushing them at 30-06 velocity...They'll perform as they are designed, as a controlled expansion bullet. It you hotrod them at max .300 mag velocities, they'll perform like a varmint bullet, which is what the "expend all the energy inside the animal" advocates desire. I'm not championing either philosophy, even though I personally favor the two holers. Whatever works for you...As long as the critter is dead and recovered, everything else is academic.

The .243 is pretty potent if you compare it to chamberings that were commonly used 100 years ago, like the 38-40 or 44-40. 30-30s and .35 Rem were considered heavy hitters in those days. Must be deer have become harder to kill over the years. I suspect that global warming has something to do with it.

The way I was taught and what I always considered normal was to gut the deer IMMEDIATELY after shooting it. I have stood over many a deer with my knife in my hand, waiting for it to stop kicking so I could begin field dressing. The dragging begins AFTER the deer is dressed. However, I have learned since then that it is very common practice in the southern states to bring the carcass out INTACT. The deer is commonly dressed back home or in camp in a butchering shed, or very often delivered to a processor guts and all to be skinned, gutted and cut up.. Go figure...

Yeah, you I'll never forget the night Ol' FLUFFY went up in a fireball.... Singed the Old Man's eyebrows and whiskers...Would have singed his hair if he HAD any....

Believe it or not, YES !! The Old Man tried to compete with them, but those dawgs just blew him out of the water.

Oh no, Growie....Not AGAIN..!!...

Hehehehe.. My Old Fat Father used to bitch every year about the gutpiles.. He always had a "yard dawg" or two that roamed his 200 acres. During deer season, they'd locate and eat the gut piles. Then when Old Fat Father was in his rocking chair, sipping on a Genny and puffing on a Camel, watching the 6 o'clock news, the dawgs would lay down by the woodstove and start cutting "gut farts".... You haven't LIVED until you've experienced a deer gut fart from an overweight coon hound...

The river that flows through Corning is the Chemung. Upstream, at Erwin Junction, the Tioga and the Canisteo flow together and form the Chemung. The Cohocton flows into it just west of Corning, near Painted Post. I have identified white herons in Florida, but I don't recall ever seeing one here in NY. Thier plumage is somewhat more "shaggy" looking than the egret , and they do have a crest, as the blue heron, but these differences are not always prominent. The easiest field mark to differentiate them is the leg color.

Cool, TF... I have seen several great egrets over the years in NY. A few years back one was hanging around just downstream of the Centerway Bridge in Corning for a few weeks. There is also a white phase of the Great Blue Heron that looks very similar to the egret. The best way to differentiate them is to look at the legs. An egret has black legs, and the heron's legs are yellow.

Most of the time I just leave them where the deer lays. Coyotes, foxes, bears, smaller predators, ravens, crows ,hawks and songbirds will clean them up, usually within a day or two. Nothing goes to waste in the woods. The only exception to this is if the deer happens to drop close to a house or building. Use your head and be considerate. On occasion, a landowner might ask you to take them with you, often to avoid his/her dogs eating or rolling in the guts.

Jack O'Connor wrote a column in "Outdoor Life" in the early sixties.. SURELY all of you guys remember that..Hehehehe. The Title of the article was " Sight in at 25 yards". The gist of the article was that with MOST centerfire cartridges, if you sight in dead on at 25 yards, you will be about 2-3 inches high at 100, a little high at 200, dead on at around 250, and a few inches low at 300. SO if you hold center mass on a game animal's rib cage, you don't have to hold over or under until you get out around 300 yards, which is a pretty good poke for most of us mere mortals. It's called point blank range...The distance you can hold dead on and still hit your target. Keep in mind, pistol rounds ( like the .44 mag.) and cartidges with a rainbow trajectory like the 45-70 will have a shorter PBR , and flat shooters like the weatherby mags will have a longer PBR, but for many commonly used cartridges, like the .243, .270, 7mm08, .280, .308, 30-06, and 7mm rem Mag and many others, it works out pretty well. ....KISS....

Wooly.. Do you wear orange shorts ? Paula was wondering about that...

Dang, that's early.. I usually don't see velevet peeled until Sept 1 or so... Generally the 1st week of Sept I see about 50/50, and then by the middle of the month they are mostly velvet free.

Nope...Use whatever works for you... Some hunters prefer an exit hole...That's not saying that they are right and you are wrong. Probably you all have similar kill/recovery rates, assuming good shot placement. Shoot 'em in the ribs and they are not going far, regardless of what you shoot 'em with. When I hear stories of deer being shot in the heart or lungs with any bullet and going hundreds of yards is when I start calling BS...

During firearm season for deer , always a hat and a vest or full coat of blaze orange. When hunting small game in the brush ( rabbits or upland birds) I generally wear an orange vest and hat, especially when hunting with a partner or partners. Turkey hunting, waterfowl hunting, varmint hunting, full camo. I no longer bowhunt, but when I did it was always in full camo.

Some areas experience "urban crawl" ..In my area we are experiencing " Amish Crawl"... Seems like they have a habit of buying and building houses, barns, etc. right in the middle of my favorite hunting spots..LOL.. As was said by former posters, some are barn builders and some are good finish carpenters. I'd have to say that any work I have had done by Amish carpenters was very satisfactory and they got it done quickly at a good price.

Wonderful scope...I have two of them and bought both of them used but in excellent conditon at gun shows for less than $150 apiece. Most any 2.5 or 3X would be fine..Look for one with lots of eye relief and field of view.

I had a chance to buy a fine old Marlin lever gun. I am not sure of the model number, but it was a 30-30 and it was a RIFLE, not a carbine. I believe it had a 24" octagon barrel and a half magazine. However, it was not drilled and tapped for either a scope or reciever sights, and with my old eyes the open sights were next to worthless for me. I felt it would be a shame to alter a fine old rifle by having it drilled and tapped, so I let it go. I needed another rifle at he time like I needed another hole in my head. The old gent wanted $100 for it...He passed away a few years back and I hope one of his sons inherited it and appreciates it.