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Seeing how I'm "DEAD WRONG", where in the world did the OP suggest that he/she was on cultivated lands? Although it does apply in some cases, the majority of the estimated 823,000 hunters in NYS probably are not engaged in farming. I'll clarify that any "Joe Schmoe"or family that isn't engaged in farming and also occupies said land needs a nuisance permit. If you're still in disbelief then read the link that I posted like 3 pages ago in this very thread. It clearly states that you may not take a coyote anytime, that you need a permit to take one out of season and that the DEC may issue a permit for a landowner to take if there is proof that the coyote is threatening public welfare or safety. http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/81531.html

Not sure, I do know that I was finding chives in March (about 3" tall). They were pretty easy to spot since everything else was still brown.

Killing a coyote out of season requires a nuisance permit, just the same as a deer. All these presumptions that ECO's care more about a deer over other wildlife are untrue.

That's precisely my point, it does not matter if it was "just a coyote" or a deer. Nothing separates the two. If you feel like checking out these Environmental Conservation Laws (ECL 71-0907) and (ECL 71-0921) you might realize the severity of these offenses. Don't forget that NYS joined the Interstate Wildlife Violator Compact. I've pasted that info below. Interstate Wildlife Violator CompactEffective March 1, 2006, New York State joined the Interstate Wildlife Violator Compact (IWVC). The IWVC is a compact under which member states reciprocate regarding the suspension or revocation of licenses and permits resulting from violations concerning the pursuit, possession or taking of mammals, birds, fish, reptiles, amphibians, mollusks, shellfish and crustaceans. If a person's license or permit privileges which come under the scope of the IWVC are suspended or revoked in one member state, they are subject to suspension or revocation in all member states. In addition to license and permit suspensions and revocations which result from a conviction for the illegal pursuit, possession or taking of mammals, birds, fish, reptiles, amphibians, mollusks, shellfish and crustaceans, failing to appear in court or to otherwise answer a ticket or summons issued for such violations will also result in license or permit suspension. IWVC member states also agree to recognize convictions for violations within the scope of the IWVC which occur in all other member states and to apply them toward license and permit suspension and revocations in the state in which the person resides. There are currently 33 states which are members of the IWVC. Other states and Canadian provinces are expected to join. For more information on the IWVC, please call DEC's Division of Law Enforcement at 518-402-8816.

That has been evident for some time now and yes there are new folks showing here up every day let alone new hunters who may not know all the regs. Say nobody pointed out that in NY coyotes have a season. Would a beginner get all fired up and go shoot one? Maybe, and failure to disclose their location could be misleading when a beginner who thinks this is just a NY site reads it. When things of this nature come up we as hunters and fellow NYers owe it to our sport and eachother to point out things that could lead to fines or even jail time, even if it requires getting a little harsh. It's better than sitting in the clink or being stripped of hunting / gun ownership privledges!

I do agree on that. I just think hydrofracking has come quite a long ways since it began in 1949. Since then 2.5 Billion fracture treatments have been performed worldwide. Maybe the methods for preventing wastewater spills could be improved, if so then it will be worth the wait.

Aah that's wild! Cool find!

Oh he went there! Do a little google search of Cannonsville,NY. The towns people were railroaded and forced to evacuate their land and homes when NYC offered miniscule amounts of money to buy them off their lands. When folks demanded more money, NYC bulldozed all the buildings and flooded this town and a few others to make a watershed and never paid them at all! I realize this is off topic, but since my grandparents grew up, lived and worked there, I feel the need to mention it. As a matter of fact, my kidneys filter a little bit of your water!. Drink up city slickers. Need a boost in water pressure? Hold on let me chug this glass of lemonade! lol

Hey I appreciate the reply and the heads up, but if asking a question and taking my personal stance in the form of words gets some feathers ruffled, then some serious reflection needs to take place in the minds of the naysayers. This state isn't going to progress if we don't allow it to. I was really just wondering if the Forever Wild would hold true when the money grubbing politicians realize what we're sitting on.

I watched with the volume muted and from what I saw it was pretty dumb. If I wanted to watch a bunch of slobs I'd watch Jersey shore. Atleast that offers up a little eye candy! lol

Doc, I think you may be referring to wild chives. They are good too! You can also transplant chives and leeks to a corner of your property and they will come back up every year. They like damp spots! Here's a couple pics of chives. I've found a bunch in the past few weeks.

My dad brought up a theory that the state may be purposely holding up hydraulic fracturing so that they can do a practice run of fracking on NYstate lands once everyone else's gas leases come to an end so that only the state will benefit from it. Do you guys think they could lawfully do this or are state lands truly "forever wild" ? I am pro- fracking. I see it as a great resource for NYS. Last year alone PA netted Millions from fracking and I see no safety issues that are bad enough to halt it's progress into NYS. They are drilling a mile straight down and the pipe is encased in 2ft of concrete. All the fracking fluid is extracted and then properly treated. 1 mile below ground is well below the water table and most municipal water wells are no deeper than 200ft. So where lies the danger?

I reccommend some folks take a gander at this.http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/81531.html Specifically the "coyote" and "snakes" parts. Also don't forget to look @ the bottom of the page to see the definitions and differences between "nuisance" and "damaging" animals. It's actually a pretty straight forward section of the reg book. Obviously everyone here has access to the innanet, so there should be no excuses. Regardless of the legality of these scenarios, we should all be able to agree that no hunting skill was involved. Any local yokel equipped with a gun could sneak around the corner of their home and plink an unsuspecting animal and to do so just because it was looking toward the house is totally absurd! Education is the best method of prevention. This may have been an honest mistake or misinterpretation of the game laws, if so, ok $hyt happens, but if they're one of the "I simply don't care" people who choose not to heed warnings or laws then it's a blatant disrespect to those of us who do try our best to abide by the laws. It's the glorification of these actions by fellow hunters that sends a bad message.

Not to be a downer or nit picky, but this is in your NYS hunting & trapping regulations book under small game seasons. Snakes, Lizards, and Salamanders You may not harvest, take, or possess any native snakes, lizards, or salamanders at any time.

I have the same sort of popping in my left shoulder. It makes an audible sound when I lift weights and doesn't feel the greatest. I guess my shoulder took a bit of damage from hitting the heavy bag, but not nearly as much abuse that the bag sustained! I hope your healing goes good. Keep cutting trees if ya have to! lol Oct 1st will be here before you know it!

The cold shouldn't matter. I've cought a bunch through the ice. Night crawlers should do it, but if you want to really get serious just go grab a few dozen medium shiner minnows a few days ahead and let them get a little stinky.

lol yeah the K and the J are very close together on the keyboard!

Thanks for the info. I may have to give that a shot in the future, especially if I could also incorporate a hog hunt into it!

I've never wet a line in Cannonsville although I do have a DEP access permit. I will be on the west branch from Stilesville to Hancock pretty regularly after turkey season. It's a 45 minute drive but we visit family alot in Deposit. You guys ever fished further up towards Walton? I know they stock it up there, just don't know if the big ones get that far up. The water may be a bit cold yet, but they will have to feed at some point and ya never know when you're gonna hook a toad! Good fishin guys

It doesn't take much to wound someone. Heck a golf pencil could take a few eyes out. lol Aluminum gutters can open ya up nicely! I say take em, but don't b*tch when your carpet goes up your wall! lol

Nice bird! What did the permit run you? I might keep that in mind for when I go visit my Mom in Darlington County. I just hate the thought of poisonus reptiles! It seems like the leaves on the ground are so thick because they don't really get snow to pack them down. That's perfect habitat for serpents!!!!

They were just waiting for you to return from South America! Now they're all happy happy happy! lol Kim, I like cabins! lol Just kidding! Welcome aboard!

I think someone brought this sort of thing up last year too, except then it was PETA dudes supposedly flying around in ultralights. I see those every so often, but I think most just figure it's the law out looking for marijuana plants or pervs checkin out the skinny dippin holes! lol. I might start flying kites again! lol Except now instead of kite string, it'll be kevlar thread so as to entangle the drone!

Great bit of advice! Kevin, I wasn't sure if there was some sort of game farm on L.I. that offered wild boar. I sought the feral hogs in NYS up near Skaneateles lake a few times, but no luck. They are just so widely dispersed like WNYBuckHunter said. Every hunter had to start somewhere. Personally, I took a button buck my very first year bowhunting 16 years ago, so don't let inexperience discourage you. I practiced shooting every day after school and soaked up every bit of knowledge I could from my dad, brother and magazines. I hope you stick with it. Us guys and gals are here to help newcomers. Ask lots of questions and practice practice practice!

Looking towards your house? I bet those outdoor "house"cats look a might tasty to a redtail or goshawk! Shoot one of those and you might as well kiss your wife and kids and tell them daddy won't be home for a few years. Reporting an illegally taken animal is not a choice, but rather an obligation. I could care less what it is, frogs, shad, kill a snake, foul hook a fish, or the f'n scourge of the woods, try me. This is a hunting site, not a point and shoot site. We have an obligation to care for our sport and nature so that it can be passed on to our children. I get that the original post seems out of the ordinary, but it's a shame to read all the hoorahs and high fives just because it was a coyote.