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Splitear, it's not possible to debate your opinions, because they are opinions. I could present evidence refuting the basis of your opinions to counter your assumptions with facts, but that would probably just end in futility, since facts rarely change deep seated opinions. Besides, you've already stated you are not interested in going there. Your main assertion is you just don't like him, which tends to color anything you read or hear about him. If you could step outside of your individual personal dislike for the man and objectively look at what he has done to improve the country, maybe you could see the many positive things that have happened in this land due to his taking the helm. What I see most in your post, are progressive main street media talking points on each subject, probably gathered from the likes of MSNBC, CNN, CBS and many of their highly compensated commissioned salespeople for Socialism, who pass themselves off to the gullible as objective journalists. I also acknowledge I have no right to condemn your choice of information, even if it comes from extremely biased sources like Scarborough and Maddow, but I can certainly debate that decision. As far as the huge divide we see in America today, It has been going on for decades and the media is responsible for it. It's not that the people wouldn't agree to work together if they had a mind to. It's that the media is hell bent on making sure they never have a mind to. That's why Trump has referred to them as an "enemy of the people".

CDC officials do not have exact counts of how many people die from flu each year. Flu is so common that not all flu cases are reported, and flu is not always listed on death certificates. So the CDC uses statistical models, which are periodically revised, to make estimates. The 1918 flu pandemic, which lasted nearly two years, killed more than 500,000 Americans, historians estimate. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-pandemic-h1n1.html

The winter of 2017, the flu killed 80,000 people in the US. The flu is not a year round problem. It is seasonal. Normal flu seasons run from October through March and kill between 12,000 and 60,000 in the US every year. https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/ In 2018 we had a bad flu season as well. https://www.statnews.com/2018/01/08/flu-virus-h3n2/ It killed 35,000 in the US. We had a flu pandemic in 1968-1969 and we also had Woodstock in the summer of 1969. It killed 100,000 in the US. https://www.biospace.com/article/the-1968-pandemic-strain-h3n2-persists-will-covid-19-/ COVID has killed 80,000 but is starting to wind down. It seems very prevalent if you live in a COVID hot spot, and NYC is ground zero for COVID. Many areas of the country have experienced few to no deaths from COVID at all. In that regard, COVID closely mimics any past seasonal flu, though it is a very severe flu like respiratory illness and there was no preventative vaccine prior to it's inception. Had there been a vaccine, COVID deaths to date would have been very similar to past flu season deaths.

The most qualified people to be president in America refuse to run. It's a horrible position to be in. You are under the microscope 24/7/365 and those who don't support you are always attacking and trying to make you appear like an enemy to their base. It's a thankless job and the only people who want it are either looking to fix the problems we have in this land, or looking to be powerful enough to control the masses. Trump is in the former area, while the Democrats are in the latter. He says many stupid things, but I find it difficult to say any of his policies, legislation or agenda items are stupid. It's not that most people really like Trump as a man. It's that they are smart enough to know where we would be if that woman had won the election.

I am not able to find a source to verify that. Can you supply one? Too much is attributed to Trump that was never said by him. Did you read or hear he said that or are you just taking it on hearsay? Dinsdale, your link to the Washington Post article is not accessible.

Who first imposed the import bans? Who brought court action against his board?

Considering his sons are big time African hunters and pro hunting advocates, that is hard to believe. I never heard about that. Seems his administration is in favor of African hunting and has eased many of Obama's restrictions. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/17/trumps-wildlife-board-claims-trophy-hunting-saves-endangered-animals

He began using Twitter because the Main Stream Media refused to convey his message to the public. They left him no choice. He needs to get a proof reader to prevent some of his tweets from being used against him.

Yes, mistakes. Some driven by politics, which he had little experience with. But did any really affect the citizen's liberties, rights or freedoms? None of these mistakes have really screwed up the country, they screwed up his agenda. Airedale, you left out the most important one. Judges on the SCOTUS and District courts.

I think policies and legislation are what should be addressed. Results matter most. I agree he is not a talented orator, but a man who improves the country, is far more important to me than one who eloquently lies to the detriment of the citizens. If I'm going to acknowledge some of his screw ups, I need to know what they were. No president is perfect, but what has he really screwed up?

Looks interesting. I like a .45 myself. What do these go for? The website doesn't give pricing info as far as I can tell.

OK, in the interest of impartiality, let's address this concern from Steve863. "BTW, a reasonable thinking person would acknowledge some of the many screw ups by Trump, also." Fire away.

Delaware County has had 4 deaths. The entire county is dying economically. Going back to the statement about "we were almost there" with overwhelmed hospitals. The CITY was almost there. WE were not even close. Yet the Governor thought we should kill the economy here because the virus was out of control there. Most upstate hospitals were empty and losing over 1 million dollars a month and many are now saying they may not be able to reopen thanks to the shutdown and massive financial losses.

It's just classic leftist misdirection trying to get folk's attention off of the subject. BTW Steve, I don't support any individual. I support positive action and positive results and condemn negative action and negative results.

So we should all give up our rights because people who don't know anything want us too? This virus seems to have the greatest effect on the gullible. BTW, the leftist main stream media wants us to think one of them is doing a great job. Real journalists would be reporting what's in this thread.

Mention the name Ahmaud Arbery and many have heard about the case ad nauseum. However, have you heard the name Angela Summers? She was unarmed. She was minding her own business. She was a 45-year-old mother. However, she was "white." Yep, that's the only difference in why her name isn't being plastered across your 50-inch television screens. The ferocious media manipulation and bias that occurs daily in this nation is sickening. Angela Summers was a mail carrier walking her Monday route when suddenly she met her demise. She bypassed a home due to the dangers of the residents' dog. The U.S. Postal Service office had warned this family with three letters in the mail about their aggressive dog. They never took mitigating measures. So, Angela was instructed to not deliver the mail there until the family followed through on the warnings. The mail delivery had been suspended according to the criminal complaint, and the family had been instructed to pick up their mail from the local post office. Enter Tony Cushingberry-Mays. He is a 21-year-old black male who allegedly confronted Summers on this fatal day. He harassed Summers at the neighbor's front porch about the mail. Summers grabbed her mace and sprayed Cushingberry-Mays. He pulled out a gun and shot her in the chest. If we reversed the roles and "color" of the individuals, this would have made international news. The headlines would read: "Unarmed black male carrier, father of 4, shot by vigilante white male." Instead, in the headline, there was no mention of Ms. Summers's skin color. No mention of her being unarmed. No mention about her daughter being left behind. The headlines read, "Postal Worker Angela Summers Killed, Allegedly Over Dispute Involving Coronavirus Stimulus Check." The saddest part about this whole tragedy is that the shooter's family was upset about not receiving their relief checks from the Trump administration. Go figure. Talk about "don't shoot the messenger." Angela Summers was just the unarmed messenger doing her job. Who's really the victim? Who's really the vigilante? Where's the media outrage? Willie Richardson

Yeah, sometimes illiterate people have more common sense than highly educated (indoctrinated) one's do.

The reason they don't want to go back to work is because they are making more on unemployment then they would working again. They want to wait until the unemployment runs out. Employers knew this would happen when the govt added a $600 bonus to the unemployment checks. Is there anything the govt gets involved in they don't screw up?

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo was hit with some well-deserved criticism after last week brought news that at least 5,400 COVID-19 deaths in the state have come from nursing homes. Back in March, in the early days of the China Virus pandemic, Cuomo issued an order mandating that nursing homes accept patients who had tested positive for COVID-19 rather than send them to hospitals. It was well known at the time that in Washington, one of the earliest states to experience the COVID-19 outbreak, nursing homes were hit especially hard. Cuomo's mandate was counterintuitive and deadly. Ironically, back in April, Cuomo labeled nursing homes as "ground zero" for the pandemic, but he also used that label to criticize those nursing homes. "If they cannot provide that care, then they have to transfer the person to another facility," he said. "Those are the rules. They get paid to take care of a resident." And yet the governor's standing order required these same facilities to continue accepting infected patients, which resulted in a least 19 infected patients being sent from the hospital back to nursing homes. The latest news is that New York officials have been fudging the statistics on the number of nursing-home patients that have died from the virus, as only deaths that occur at these long-term-care facilities are being recorded as nursing-home deaths. Any nursing-home resident who was infected at the facility and was then moved to a hospital and died within 24 hours has not been included in nursing-home death totals. New estimates of nursing-home deaths, including those sent to the hospital, add at least 1,700 to the total number. Cuomo's order spread the virus to the most vulnerable. Cuomo's responses to the new criticism has been nothing but deflections. "People died. Older people, vulnerable people are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen despite whatever you do. You can have a situation where everyone did the right thing and everyone tried their best, and people still die," he lectured. "Look, people rationalize death in different ways. I don't think there was any logical rationale to say they would be alive today." Interestingly, New York data also indicates that, far from preventing the spread of COVID-19, Cuomo's lockdown order did little to stop the spread at all. Some 66% of the new infections in the state came from people who were sheltering in place. Maybe Cuomo should have done more to focus on protecting and quarantining the most vulnerable rather than issuing a one-size-fits-all shutdown order.