Dave

You must admit that the former speaker (NANCY, said we must pass it so we can find out what's in it) There should be a law that congressman and women can't vote on anything they haven't read. There should be a sign off document they must sign to verify they are knowlegable of what they are signing. I agree we can't trust media or politicians.Dave

I am not saying that the Republicans are any better. Let me make that clear. I am not affiliated with either party. But it is the Democrats that pushed that health care bill, that no one wanted. As far as I am concerned the Republicans are in till they screw it up which is highly likely. This whole system is broken and needs a complete overhaul. But I don't see how it can be accomplished.Dave

There is a new political policy and it's jumping on the sword. The Democrats didn't care what would happen the them as long as they passed health care. That tactic worked just like a sucicide bomber. The American public didn't want it but the dems shoved it through the house and senate. Now they want everyone to work together what a joke. Dave

I was sitting on the sidelines for this one but after reading nyantler I have to but my 2 cents in the fray. I feel exactly as you. My school tax just went us $1600 for the year for a total tax of $8000 for the year. And that's just school tax. But I don't even have kids in school anymore. And my house up state has $4000 in taxes when does it end. Will we just give up and give our property to the Government because we can't afford the taxes any more. Guess what ,the tax payers are broke too and can't afford to pay all the pensions and medical for teachers and public employees who don't even contribute to their medical. State retirees don't pay state tax but we do and also pay for all their benefits. Dave

I don't see that this is going anywhere and we can agree to disagree. So I don't think I well be playing this game with you any more. The opinions I have expressed are just mine and I didn't expect you or anyone else to agree, they are just my feelings on this subject. Maybe I am to personally attacked to this topic due to the time I have spent at Ground zero and all the feelings this topic brings up. PS. you are not a fool nor a moron. I should probably slow down on the reply key. I am sure there are other topics we will agree on.Dave

Are you calling me a fanatical Muslim? Dave No, would you like to be? Steve, thanks for confirming what a fool you are. Now everyone on this site can see too. Maybe what we should be questioning is your loyalty. Dave

Are you calling me a fanatical Muslim? Dave

What planet are you from? Were you dropped on your head when you were a kid. Does moron ring a bell.Dave You proved something with that response. I'm no longer going to give your posts the dignity of an intelligent response. Thank God for that, who wants to hear what you have to say you said enough. Dave

Steve there you go again, Speak for yourself, you are not the spokesman for this site. I thought everyone on this site speaks for themselves, right or wrong. Yes I am bitching about the Muslims who attacked us on 9-11 . I was there the day the two planes hit and stayed there 14 hrs a day for almost 3 weeks. I feel for every innocent person and their families, who's lives will never be the same. The children who lost fathers, mothers , brothers, aunt, uncles etc. You get my point, those who did this must held accountable. So what's your solution now?Dave

So if you saw cheering with your own eyes, what do YOU suggest the solution should be here? You think our nation is in jeopardy because of muslims, so exactly what should be done? Telling us that YOU are a patriotic, America loving, "God Bless America" singing person while others aren't is honestly not enough of an answer here. Steve you keep asking what is the solution, well what is your solutionDave

VJP I agree there was footage of celebrations in the streets and then they were abruptly stopped. What some people forget, the assets that were ceased by federal agents from Muslim organizations that were funding the terrorists. We are at war is correct but we have rules the terrorist have no rules and there is the advantage. Dave

I saw news footage after the 9-11 attack in some communities where people were cheering in the streets.Dave Did you also see reports of vigilante style un needed attacks on innocent law abiding Muslims? I don't condone the attacks on innocent people. But after hearing Muslims have attacked and killed thousands of Americans don't you think there would be cause for alarm. That the Muslim community would be under scrutiny for being sympathizers. Do you truly think the country was thinking rational, I remember a cry for retribution .The nation wanted the government to react for this act of terrorism. So I am not surprise some citizens reacted with violence against the Muslim community.Dave

I saw news footage after the 9-11 attack in some communities where people were cheering in the streets.Dave

I agree 100%. Who would know better than him.Dave

Me and Steve863 are two of the least delicate guys on here and there isn't a whole lot of things you can call me to upset me. Lets focus on that part highlighted there, are you saying we should sink to their levels and not be civil? Basicaly what I think happened here was you got upset based on the subject matter and felt the need to put in your 2 cents but really don't have a whole lot to add to the discussion. That's the problem, when you said you think. You may think but you don't know what I am thinking. So now you control what people think on this site and others opinions don't count, sounds like you and I have a right to disagree, as do I. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.Dave

Sorry for not being politically correct. I guess he was just misguided liberal. I worked at ground zero and I can't forget who were responsible and why we just don't call them out. But we don't want to hurt anyone feelings. Get real!!!! Only one group was responsible and you can't twist the facts, civil discussion or not.Dave I am curious as to your solution? How should we call them out? What else do we do? We already went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan because of 9/11. Was everyone in the Islamic faith responsible for 9/11? Not putting words in anyone's mouth like I have been accused, just hope for some honest explanations here. Well Steve lets hold the Islamic community accountable for not condeming the acts committed my people of their faith. After the 9-11 attacks they were celebrating in the streets in our country and abroad. So there are people in this country who agree with the Islamic philosophy . And only Islamic's were involved and responsible for attacks here and abroad. We can call them out by not letting them build a Mosque in the area around the World Trade Center. Where is their compassion for the victims of their attacks. No, they just want to use our laws against us and shove a Mosque under our noses. Dave

Didn't know you were so delicate sorry for upsetting you. Wonder how many veterans would object to calling a moron a moron? It is what it is, if you put lipstick on a pig it's still a pig. Do you think the Islamic terrorist were having civil discussions before they took out the WORLD TRADE CENTER. Dave

Sorry for not being politically correct. I guess he was just misguided liberal. I worked at ground zero and I can't forget who were responsible and why we just don't call them out. But we don't want to hurt anyone feelings. Get real!!!! Only one group was responsible and you can't twist the facts, civil discussion or not.Dave

What planet are you from? Were you dropped on your head when you were a kid. Does moron ring a bell.Dave

Just remember that the more the government gives you the more it can take it away. The Democrats use their positions to get votes by promising everyone that the govt will be their savior. Social programs, amnesty for illegal's, Free College educations for people who are here illegal . Welfare and who pays we do. Vote the bastards out of office. We have to worry about social security and the illegals don't have to worry about their benefits. Political correctness will be the demise of this country. Dave

Just think about all the people in out country who are not Americans. But it seems they have more rights than the hard working Americans. Now we have a new type of justice called social justice to benefit the illegals in our country. Is there any wording in the constitution about social justice? No, our forefathers wanted us to make it on out own, work hard and enjoy your hard earned fruits of your labor. Where did it say redistribution of our wealth? They take our money for every liberal agenda and tax us to death in life and in death. So what can we do? Vote the bastards out before it's too late. There was a thread put up yesterday I think it was called the future, read it. Dave

DEC policy, if you see hogs shoot them. They don't want them in N.Y Dave

What's your point? Is it ever enforced? What's the solution?Dave

Guy's I agree all day hunting and earlier opening day. Dave

Crow's are so smart they will find everything, and eat it too. Dave