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There are more graphs too. All this has to be approached W/caution. I some rare instances the pressure estimation was way off.Norma 203 showed pressure signs W/10% less than estimated. Vv N550 & N560 will reach Mv/pressure @ about 2gr less than predicted, REL-17 is the opposite. It lags behind in Mv/pressure. It's a tool that becomes more useul as you get used to how it predicts certain powders.
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Mv, % of propellant burned, psi max, psi muzzle & barrel time. Cartridge : 8 mm-06 ACK IMP Bullet : .323, 180, Nosler BalTip 32180 Useable Case Capaci: 66.875 grain H2O = 4.342 cm³ Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.385 inch = 85.98 mm Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders. Matching Maximum Pressure: 62629 psi, or 431 MPa or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 107 % These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window. C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations. USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON ! 139 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped. Powder type Filling/Ratio Charge Charge Vel . Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms --------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Norma MRP 107.9 69.4 4.50 3095 99.7 62629 10814 1.173 Near Max IMR 7828 SSC 107.7 68.2 4.42 3051 97.8 62629 10586 1.168 Near Max Alliant Reloder-17 96.9 62.6 4.06 3037 100.0 62629 9526 1.178 Near Max Vihtavuori N560 107.9 68.0 4.40 3027 96.9 59293 10856 1.201 Near Max ADI AR 2213 107.9 67.2 4.36 3015 97.4 61299 10441 1.180 Near Max Alliant Reloder-19 106.1 65.4 4.24 3007 98.8 62629 10084 1.187 Near Max ADI AR 2209 105.4 64.6 4.19 3005 98.7 62629 10006 1.174 Near Max Accurate MAGPRO 107.9 70.7 4.58 3004 95.2 58452 10840 1.214 Near Max Somchem S365 103.7 63.6 4.12 3003 100.0 62629 9080 1.192 Near Max Winchester 760 95.9 62.6 4.05 3001 99.6 62629 9806 1.190 Near Max Hodgdon H414 95.9 62.6 4.05 3001 99.6 62629 9806 1.190 Near Max Alliant Reloder-22 107.9 67.2 4.36 3001 98.4 58643 10485 1.212 Near Max Vihtavuori N550 98.2 61.9 4.01 2985 100.0 62629 9497 1.199 Near Max Cartridge : 8 mm-06 ACK IMP Bullet : .323, 180, Nosler BalTip 32180 Useable Case Capaci: 66.875 grain H2O = 4.342 cm³ Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.385 inch = 85.98 mm Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm Powder : Norma MRP Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge. CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads ! Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms -20.0 86 55.52 2427 2354 30245 8708 90.4 1.619 -18.0 88 56.91 2493 2484 32449 8996 91.9 1.573 -16.0 91 58.30 2559 2618 34827 9272 93.2 1.529 -14.0 93 59.68 2626 2757 37397 9533 94.5 1.484 -12.0 95 61.07 2693 2899 40176 9778 95.6 1.435 -10.0 97 62.46 2760 3045 43188 10004 96.6 1.387 -08.0 99 63.85 2827 3195 46452 10212 97.5 1.341 -06.0 101 65.24 2894 3348 49995 10398 98.2 1.297 -04.0 104 66.62 2961 3505 53849 10561 98.9 1.254 -02.0 106 68.01 3028 3665 58047 10700 99.3 1.213 ! Near Maximum ! +00.0 108 69.40 3095 3827 62629 10814 99.7 1.173 ! Near Maximum ! +02.0 110 70.79 3161 3993 67638 10902 99.9 1.134 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +04.0 112 72.18 3227 4162 73103 10961 100.0 1.097 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +06.0 114 73.56 3292 4332 79158 11002 100.0 1.061 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +08.0 117 74.95 3358 4506 85802 11037 100.0 1.027 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +10.0 119 76.34 3422 4682 93135 11067 100.0 0.993 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value: +Ba 108 69.40 3239 4193 78000 10324 100.0 1.079 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value: -Ba 108 69.40 2882 3321 49627 10736 94.7 1.297
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The whitetail herd is a "matriarchal" society. Small herds are usually comprised of a mature doe & her female offspring. Doe fawns, except when actual breeding is taking place, will stay with the older doe for life. Male fawns are usually run off by bucks in their 1st autumn but may return to the heard until they reach sexual maturity in their 2nd autumn. Once they reach sexual maturity, the mother will no longer tolerate their presence. The dumbest thing on 4 legs is a button buck that has been separated from its mother. The last doe in the group that was flagging" was probably the mature leader of the herd. She was warning all the other deer in the area. In my experience the "lead doe" is usually either the 1st or the last doe in the group to emerge, depending on the situation.
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Unsized brass allows the chamber dimensions to be factored in. Quickload was uncannily accurate predicting Mv W/IMR 4064 in my 1st rendition of the 8mm-06 Ackley, predicting Mv to less than a 50fps variation.. In addition to the H2O capacity of the fired case, I'll also need the length of the case, COAL of the loaded cartridge, the bullet used. The barrel length will also be needed if you want Mv predictions.
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I use chronograph data & settle on the charge that yields the lowest Standard deviation. My Pact Chrono reads out high, low, extreme spread & standard deviation. So far the loads W/lowest standard deviation have performed so well, usually < 1/2" @ 100yds, I never bothered to try anything else. Not saying that this is the best way, it has just worked out that way. The only exception has been the .323 180gr Ballistic Tips in the 8X57. I did not have enough of them on hand to do much load development. I may try some more charge adjustment if I can't get the .323 180gr Ballistic Tips to shoot .5 MOA. That bullet isn't efficient in the short COAL of my 8X57 but the 8mm-06 Ackley will allow a COAL of 3.385" so it will allow plenty of room in the case for powder. I also load COAL so that the ogive is .010" or less off the lands.
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There, I fixed that for ya.
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Longer barrels shooting (significantly) harder/faster is a throw back from black powder days.
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Trump Explained
wildcat junkie replied to fasteddie's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
If you want to go pre-9/11, the KKK lynched more black people i.n the USA in the 20th century than were killed on 9/11. Trump is very popular with those folks that are in the KKK. -
It works better W/unsized brass.
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Trump Explained
wildcat junkie replied to fasteddie's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
Study Says White Extremists Have Killed More Americans in the U.S. Than Jihadists Since 9/11 Homegrown Extremists Tied to Deadlier Toll Than Jihadists in U.S. Since 9/11 Kohn: Since 9/11, right-wing extremists killed more Americans than Islamic extremists And, don't forget about this guy. -
That's normally a sign of excessive chamber pressure but it could well be a burr or other imperfection on the ejector slot.
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That would be the "ejector" not the extractor & if it was from the ejector slamming into the case it would be a dent, not a shiny wiped spot. Did your lowest charge loads exhibit the same thing? I have old 8mm-06 Ackley case that were loaded to way above '06 pressure & they don't show that. Is this a true Mauser of a Mauser copy like the Rugar M77 or CRF Mod 70 Win?
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Is that a shiny spot right next to the "N" in WIN?
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Trump Explained
wildcat junkie replied to fasteddie's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
They tend to do the same with the Bible. -
Trump Explained
wildcat junkie replied to fasteddie's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
That's not the only similarity! -
Careful when handloading
wildcat junkie replied to TreeGuy's topic in Guns and Rifles and Discussions
For rifle cartridges I always use load densities of near 100% or higher, up to 107%, as it prevents getting even a 2-3 grain overcharge into the case W/O some warning signs at the loading bench during bullet seating. In a rifle cartridge, a load the blows the case head can result in a split stock & splinters of wood flying at high velocity way before catastrophic action failure from excess pressure ensues.. As I send test loads over the chronograph I can watch standard deviation shrink as load density increases to 100% & beyond. -
Careful when handloading
wildcat junkie replied to TreeGuy's topic in Guns and Rifles and Discussions
Similar albeit less dramatic damage can occur in handguns where the load takes up too little room in the case allowing the flame from the primer to overshoot the charge lying in the bottom of the case below the flash hole. The resulting pressure wave from a large surface area being ignited directs the pressure upwards before the bullet can leave the case. -
I bought mine way back in 2000 when it was on floppy. I paid about $70 for it and got it upgraded to CD-ROM when my old desktop died & I couldn't use the floppy version any more. I reload wildcat cartridges (hence my username) that don't have "book data" & I also load older cartridges to modern pressure because I have them chambered in modern actions that will take the higher pressure. If one is loading modern cartridges that are factory loaded to 60k or higher psi it isn't really worth it as book data will already reflect maximum safe chamber pressure.. For instance, 6mm Rem & 270 Win are already pushing 65K chamber pressure which is approaching the yield value of brass (about 70K psi) About the only "modern cartridge" that benefits from a boost in chamber pressure is the 280 Rem which is downloaded for the M742 autoloader. Loaded to 270 Win spec for bolt actions, it pushes the 7mm Rem Mag pretty hard as far as mv/energy. IMO you would be better off putting the $$$$ towards a good chronograph that reads out standard deviation as well as Mv. W/O a chronograph you are l working somewhat blind because individual rifles will vary a great deal as far as pressure/Mv. If you know the actual Mv of your loads you can plug the BC of you bullet W/the Mv into one of several free calculators that are available online & plot the trajectory. Knowing exactly where your POI is for your combo will give you a tremendous boost in confidence when that shot across a valley in open hardwoods or along a power-line presents itself. My experience W/7mm-08 showed a great deal of difference between the chamber & throat specs of the Savage AXIS-II compared to my cases fired in my M700 Mtn Rifle DBM. Maximum loads for the M700 were way too hot for the tighter chamber of the Savage & the throat of the Savage was longer. Loads specifically tailored for maximum performance in the M700 would be higher pressure & cartridges tailored for the longer throat of the Savage wouldn't feed through the ridiculously short magazine of the M700.
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My version of Quickload is on a CD-ROM disc and loaded directly to my computer so it can't be hacked.
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Give me the brand, weight & type of bullet you are using, the over all length of your loaded cartridge and the barrel length & I will use that W/the data you have posted on your reloading thread to estimate the Mv & chamber pressure of your load. QUICKLOAD does very well W/IMR 4064.
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Quickload comes with "Qicktarget", an "external ballistics" program. I find it to be "spot on" as far as I can tell from the resuts out to medium rages. It will be a week or so before the barreled action gets back. The Norma MRP will be a few weeks out before arrival too.Just trying to get prepared. As far as book loads? I have 2 editions of Nosler's manual & some of their data is questionable. Especially when they list the same data for Ballistic Tip bullets & Partitions of the same caliber & weight. When loaded to the same COAL there is quire a difference in Mv/pressure. I would be leery of using either QL or book data W/O a chronograph!
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Plumbing Fixtures From A Big Box Store?
wildcat junkie replied to Lawdwaz's topic in General Chit Chat
There isn't anything complicated about a toilet. -
Plumbing Fixtures From A Big Box Store?
wildcat junkie replied to Lawdwaz's topic in General Chit Chat
Ever hear of manufacturer's websites? -
Plumbing Fixtures From A Big Box Store?
wildcat junkie replied to Lawdwaz's topic in General Chit Chat
It is also the same for Lawn tractors. The difference in that Lowes & HD don't carry the higher priced models. A Cub Cadet or Husqvarna is the same whether it is from HD, Lowes, or the local outdoor power equipment store. The difference is that the local plumbing supply or outdoor power equipment dealer will have higher quality, higher priced models to choose from.. Do your research before you buy no matter where you buy.