oneidacountyhunter Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 As I sit in my stand and haven't seen a deer all day, I wonder if calls will make a difference? Last bow season I called in a 6 point but that was early November, not October 1rst. Are they pointless now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkln Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 best thing is to try, just don't overcall, start low and short calls.....10-15 secs and listen and watch.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkln Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I have seen doe responding to short low calls, too loud and too long and they are gone.....just my experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StripedBuck Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Not pointless. Deer are vocal and calling this early with a fawn call (distress call) wiil bring Does in running!!. A Doe Grunt and Contact calls are also good they use them to contact other Deer. As for the Bucks maybe a soft tending call. Since the Rut and Sparring hasn't started yet, you don't want anything too loud to scare them away! Best of luck with the calling they do work at the right times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I would stay with soft contact calls this early, even some very light ticking of horns (like 2 small bucks just trying them out for the 1st time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneidacountyhunter Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 Alright thanks guys. I'll try anything about now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I have killed more deer using a call than any other single hunting tool other than my weapon. I never go into th woods without a call... I call all throughout the hunting season. This time of year is a great time to call... deer are naturally curious animals and will react to a call this time of year just to investigate what they percieve as a familiar sound... young bucks are especially easy to call early... yearling bucks are usually new to the area and like any teenager they are looking for some action... any new sound or somewhat familiar sound sparks their attention and they will come to see if they can make a new friend... sometimes they will run to the call.. bigger bucks will also come to the call, but in my experience they will always (100% of the time) move downwind before approaching the spot that the call came from usually busting the hunter long before he gets into bow range... in and area where a big buck can see a long ways like an open field he will expect to see what made the call, if he doesn't, he will be very skiddish while investigating it's source so don't expect him to just prance straight over to your stand.. he will make a big circle and get his nose into the wind first and approach from inside the cover. I have never seen a young buck ignore any call.. I have though seen several big bucks act as if they never even heard it.. even though I know that they did. For smaller bucks you really don't even have to be a good caller.. for bigger bucks you had better sound like a deer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Is there a good mouth call that will imitate a fawn call? I have an electronic caller but don't want to lug that in while carrying a treestand and all the rest of my gear. I'm strickly a meat hunter and with the abundance of does versus bucks, anything that can bring in does would work out better for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdswtr Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I do believe elcetronic calls are not legal to use in NY. But yes I have had some success calling this early in the norther tier for years. The one that gets the most attention is a fawn bawling. If a doe is in the area and receptive to investigating a fawn she will come in. Even this early I have rattled and had does come in. Dont ask why I have no idea other than curiosity I would say. NYantler has said it pretty good about some of the scenarios that can be played out. Those big bucks are sneaky and a decoy is a good way to entice them a little bit more. Just make sure it is scent free of human odors or that will be your last chance at getting him to come into that scenario. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I do believe elcetronic calls are not legal to use in NY. This is from DEC website. Q: Is it legal to use decoys and electronic calls to hunt deer? A: Both decoys and electronic calls are legal to use for deer hunting in NY. You should exercise caution when transporting a deer decoy to and from the locations in the field. Some hunters wrap a strip of blaze orange material around the decoy when carrying it. http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/8310.html Look under "Equipment" section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns&ReligionCop Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 This is from DEC website. Q: Is it legal to use decoys and electronic calls to hunt deer? A: Both decoys and electronic calls are legal to use for deer hunting in NY. You should exercise caution when transporting a deer decoy to and from the locations in the field. Some hunters wrap a strip of blaze orange material around the decoy when carrying it. http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/8310.html Look under "Equipment" section. I think they maybe new because I'm pretty sure a few years ago electronic calls could only be used for predators and crows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burmjohn Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I think they maybe new because I'm pretty sure a few years ago electronic calls could only be used for predators and crows For some reason I thought the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdswtr Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) Good info, I stand corrected. This has to be a recent change. I know this was not the case a few years back. Hard keping up on all this stuff sometimes. Geeesh Edited October 2, 2012 by wdswtr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdswtr Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Now I picture everyone downloading deer call apps on there cell phones lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneidacountyhunter Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Now I picture everyone downloading deer call apps on there cell phones lol. I already have them, LOL. More so just tor playing around with, and because my phone speaker isn't loud enough, hehehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I do believe elcetronic calls are not legal to use in NY. But yes I have had some success calling this early in the norther tier for years. The one that gets the most attention is a fawn bawling. If a doe is in the area and receptive to investigating a fawn she will come in. Even this early I have rattled and had does come in. Dont ask why I have no idea other than curiosity I would say. NYantler has said it pretty good about some of the scenarios that can be played out. Those big bucks are sneaky and a decoy is a good way to entice them a little bit more. Just make sure it is scent free of human odors or that will be your last chance at getting him to come into that scenario. Good luck. A decoy does work very well for the bigger bucks I don't use one because I'm not sitter, but I know fellas that do and they swear by them this time of year... I use the "True Talker" call... Hunters Specialties sells it now... I have the original one from the inventor David Oathout... it is, in my opinion, the best deer call on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpteach Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 A fawn in distress call works well in the early season. The doe come a running quick so be ready for the shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneidacountyhunter Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Used the fawn in distress this morning. Had one come in behind me but never offered a shot Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpteach Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Oneida, make sure you don't use it again for a few days. Blow it again they will come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneidacountyhunter Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 Oneida, make sure you don't use it again for a few days. Blow it again they will come. Why wait a few days? Will it spook them, almost like the boy who cried wolf. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpteach Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Exactly! It works better with 2 guys. 1 stAnds and the other wails the tune! If you could change your stand and call is better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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