MACHINIST Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 This year I found myself wanting a air pistol in the stand with me so when the day is done I could nail a squirrel or grouse.I had a albino squirrel around me all season long and want to get him mounted but haven't seen him since seasons closed.Just wondering if anyone can point me to a nice air pistoll that will be accurate to 25 yards that wont weigh a ton or sounds like a 22 going off....if there is such a thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Michael Waddell irritates the hell out of me, but his bone collector model by Gamo is supposed to be pretty good. I don't have any experience with one myself, but I have read good reviews on it. The albino must be pretty tough to see in the snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg54 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Check out the Benjamin Marauder Air Pistol at Pyramydair.com that might be what your looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Oh shoot, I read over the pistol part...sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Check out the Benjamin Marauder Air Pistol at Pyramydair.com that might be what your looking for I'd be very surprised if anyone here hunts with one. A more economical pistol would be the 1377. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greybeard Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I own the Crosman 1377 (.177) and the 1322(.22). I have read where guys modify the 1377 to get more velocity. I think youtube has stuff on that. They are very accurate and I have the rifle stock attachment that fits both.(I hit a fly, sitting on a white vegetable, at 25 feet, a few months ago, so that's accurate). I shoot them alot, and really like them. I thought about getting a hunting air pistol, as you did not, too long ago. My 1377 claims 600fps. I haven't put in on a chrony, but I doubt that it would achieve that. The 1322 is around 425fps(I think). Both will kill squirrels with a brain shot at close range and are good for pest birds. I , personally, think that they are underpowered for most hunting, but some may disagree...I read on the internet that guys do hunt with them in some places, one guy uses the .1377 for grouse(head shots). NYS requires 600fps in an airgun to hunt, so I use my air rifles in the field, When I was lookin, I was interested in either the Browning 800(I think that that's the number), or the Hatsan model 25 super charger. I did not research enough though. Diana makes one too. With the new gun laws and attitudes, I decided not to get any more air pistols because I thought that the idiots , one day, may make me get a pistol permit for it..Maybe , I'm paranoid, but that was my thought..( I live in Nassau County). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I own the Crosman 1377 (.177) and the 1322(.22). I have read where guys modify the 1377 to get more velocity. I think youtube has stuff on that. They are very accurate and I have the rifle stock attachment that fits both.(I hit a fly, sitting on a white vegetable, at 25 feet, a few months ago, so that's accurate). I shoot them alot, and really like them. I thought about getting a hunting air pistol, as you did not, too long ago. My 1377 claims 600fps. I haven't put in on a chrony, but I doubt that it would achieve that. The 1322 is around 425fps(I think). Both will kill squirrels with a brain shot at close range and are good for pest birds. I , personally, think that they are underpowered for most hunting, but some may disagree...I read on the internet that guys do hunt with them in some places, one guy uses the .1377 for grouse(head shots). NYS requires 600fps in an airgun to hunt, so I use my air rifles in the field, When I was lookin, I was interested in either the Browning 800(I think that that's the number), or the Hatsan model 25 super charger. I did not research enough though. Diana makes one too. With the new gun laws and attitudes, I decided not to get any more air pistols because I thought that the idiots , one day, may make me get a pistol permit for it..Maybe , I'm paranoid, but that was my thought..( I live in Nassau County). Excellent review on them Greybeard. The 1377 is by far the "civic" of air pistols. You can shoot them stock, or pimped up. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I love the 1377 I owned a few when I was younger and one day ill buy another one i took down squirrels and rabbits with it with out any problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EspressoBuzz Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Umarex USA Browning 800 Express .22 Pistol is the most powerful air pistol in .22 available, but its a heavy beast. I got it for just the reason you said I can take a squirrel or rabbit from my stand with little noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Umarex USA Browning 800 Express .22 Pistol is the most powerful air pistol in .22 available, but its a heavy beast. I got it for just the reason you said I can take a squirrel or rabbit from my stand with little noise. Maybe as a break barrel, but at 47lbs of breaking torque required, it doesn't sound like fun. Here's a few specs for comparison. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACHINIST Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 I think the 1377/1322 looks like what I am looking for.It would be nice for a break action but from what I have been reading the effort on most is very hard.The only reason I dont like the 1377/1322 is that you have to pump it up and I wanted something hat was deployed quickly because grouse dont give you much of a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thphm Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Are CO2 pistols legal ?. During deer season?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greybeard Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I'm not well versed on many aspects of airguns. I'm a hunter who uses an airgun, not an airgunner who hunts. So take what I say, based on that. I'm not too technical. I shoot either the 1377, or the 1322 a few times a week, most of the year. I like the adjustable power because in one spot where I shoot, I need lower power. I got them because I just like to shoot, and had to take care of some pests. You tube has some info on both guns. One even shows a penetration test by a guy. When I was taking care of some pest problems I found that pumping it when I saw the little beasts scared them away, or just took too long and they'd move. It's not that it takes too long, it's just where I do it I have limited field of view and they'd move out of it sometimes while I was pumping.. I asked an airgun dealer how long those guns could be left pumped, and I was told that they should hold the pump for up to 30 minutes then I should shoot it. So I'd pump it to the power that I want, then when I'd see my target, I just load the pellet and shoot. I have read that the gun can be dry fired with no problem,but I can not verify that . I have done it to release the pressure then re pump. I was stationary to do the pest thing, so it's very different than still hunting for grouse , etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I'm not well versed on many aspects of airguns. I'm a hunter who uses an airgun, not an airgunner who hunts. So take what I say, based on that. I'm not too technical. I shoot either the 1377, or the 1322 a few times a week, most of the year. I like the adjustable power because in one spot where I shoot, I need lower power. I got them because I just like to shoot, and had to take care of some pests. You tube has some info on both guns. One even shows a penetration test by a guy. When I was taking care of some pest problems I found that pumping it when I saw the little beasts scared them away, or just took too long and they'd move. It's not that it takes too long, it's just where I do it I have limited field of view and they'd move out of it sometimes while I was pumping.. I asked an airgun dealer how long those guns could be left pumped, and I was told that they should hold the pump for up to 30 minutes then I should shoot it. So I'd pump it to the power that I want, then when I'd see my target, I just load the pellet and shoot. I have read that the gun can be dry fired with no problem,but I can not verify that . I have done it to release the pressure then re pump. I was stationary to do the pest thing, so it's very different than still hunting for grouse , etc. Multi-pump pneumatics should not be kept charged for long periods of time, that's the job for nitro-piston break barrels and PCP air guns. If day 30 minutes is OK. Dry firing any PCP or multi-pump is fine, won't damage anything. You'll want to refrain from dry firing a break barrel, as the piston is not designed for that kind of abuse. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 (edited) Are CO2 pistols legal ?. During deer season?. Under DEC code, air guns are not separated into pistols and long arms. They are simply classified as air guns. Anything that can fire a pellet/bb 600 FPS or more is a legal hunting implement in NYS. I never intended to hunt with a pistol, so I never had to look into those regs much. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Edited December 28, 2013 by shawnhu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I think the 1377/1322 looks like what I am looking for.It would be nice for a break action but from what I have been reading the effort on most is very hard.The only reason I dont like the 1377/1322 is that you have to pump it up and I wanted something hat was deployed quickly because grouse dont give you much of a chance. You can forget about the 1322. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greybeard Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Shawn, Have you tried the Benjamin trail NP air pistol. It seems to have the velocity needed, but for some reason I decided against it when I saw it advertised. I assume that it can be left charged. I already had my other 2 air pistols, so that may have been a factor in why I didn't research further. Also, as far as co2 airguns aren't they less effective in cold weather. I own 2 co2(s), but don't shoot them much. My 1377 penetrates better than the 1322 when shooting thru cans , but the 1322 makes clam shells kind of explode when I shoot them. The 1377 just goes through. I've shot many pests with both, butI never killed anything with either of them at over 10 yards. I'm sure that they'll do it, but I never tried. I use the springers for a longer hunting shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thphm Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 (edited) www.pyramydair.com/blog/2005/07/how-does-cold-weather-affect-different.html Here is the answer on cold temps. Looks as if the PCP type is the type to buy . Edited December 28, 2013 by lurking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Shawn, Have you tried the Benjamin trail NP air pistol. It seems to have the velocity needed, but for some reason I decided against it when I saw it advertised. I assume that it can be left charged. I already had my other 2 air pistols, so that may have been a factor in why I didn't research further. Also, as far as co2 airguns aren't they less effective in cold weather. I own 2 co2(s), but don't shoot them much. My 1377 penetrates better than the 1322 when shooting thru cans , but the 1322 makes clam shells kind of explode when I shoot them. The 1377 just goes through. I've shot many pests with both, butI never killed anything with either of them at over 10 yards. I'm sure that they'll do it, but I never tried. I use the springers for a longer hunting shot B, I haven't shot the Benjamin Trail NP pistol. It looks like a fine pistol for the price. Rifles with the Nitro Piston technology costs and additional $100 to their spring cousins. If I were to ever get into pistol shooting with pellets, I'd get this or the Marauder .22 Pistol. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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