black powder put away

[heatmizzer]

Well i cant take it. I have a brand new bow that I love. Hunted all bow season without a shooter in range. I just would rather shoot a deer with my New Breed Genetix then a gun. so tonight it back to the bow. I know I will have a 150 class buck doing a dance at 60 yards. thats ok. i think?

[fasteddie]

You have room in those stands . Why not take both --- gun & bow !

[bubba]

I think that is illegal. You need to choose which implement and take it. I may be wrong, but I know during ml and archery season here when they run together, it is illegal.

[hunterjohn]

why would it be illegal? in the late archery muzzleloader  i understand early archery because thats archery only

[bubba]

In th eearly ml season in the north, there is a weel where it is both archery and Ml.  and it is illegal to carry both.

[Bleitten04]

Ive seen guys on tv do it LOL : ...

[bubba]

In the early ml season in the north, there is a week where it is both archery and Ml.  and it is illegal to carry both.

  You guys forget there is a new york north of the thruway lol

[Fantail]

... I know I will have a 150 class buck doing a dance at 60 yards. thats ok. i think?

What is it your asking us here?

Can understand you wanting to take a buck with your Bow, but not at that range.

[heatmizzer]

I was just saying I i know a buck will pass just out of range and that ok. thats the chances youy take when bow hunting

[fasteddie]

I think that is illegal. You need to choose which implement and take it. I may be wrong, but I know during ml and archery season here when they run together, it is illegal.

What page in the Regs Booklet is that on ?  : ... ;D ... ;D ... ;D

[fasteddie]

I know you can't carry a pistol with you during bow season but i'd bet it would be legal to carry a gun and bow during gun season as long as you had the licenses .

[bubba]

I think that is illegal. You need to choose which implement and take it. I may be wrong, but I know during ml and archery season here when they run together, it is illegal.

What page in the Regs Booklet is that on ?  : ... ;D ... ;D ... ;D

Lol it isnt in the book that I know of. I was just quoting what a dec officer told me when I asked about my bow and ml together during the week both seasons are open here in the north.  He said absolutely not.  But he was the same one who said you can carry field tips and broadheads. I guess he doenst like me as well as I thought.  I would ask before I did is all.  I guess you make up your mind which you want to use and use it. If it doesn't work out oh well it is hunting. Could you really imagine lugging all needed for both and getting it all set up? You may as well stay home. I choose my ml for most of regular season.  If a deer is out of range of it, but the 25-06 would have done it, I made a bad choice.  Next time I bring the 25. 

[fasteddie]

I was thinking of taking an old golf bag and one of those 2 wheel carts and doing a camo job on them . Then i could take the ML , Shotgun , Pistol and Bow along . Kinda like picking which club to use .......... : ... ;D ... ;D ... ;D

[bubba]

somehow I can picture that. 

[heatmizzer]

And I bet we will see a slide show or video of it soon. lol keep em comin' fast eddie

[screamon demon]

  of Taking  It is unlawful to:

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• Take big game while the deer or bear is in water.
   
• Possess a firearm of any description when bowhunting or when accompanying a person bowhunting during special archery seasons.
   
• Make, set or use a salt lick on land inhabited by deer or bear.
  

 

I knew I had read this before in the manner of taking section.

[fasteddie]

" 

• Possess a firearm of any description when bowhunting or when accompanying a person bowhunting during special archery seasons."
  
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  Show me where it says you can't take a bow along with a gun during Firearms Season ...........
  

[WNYBuckHunter]

Based on that, wouldnt it make sense that if you have the bow, you would be bow hunting and the gun would become secondary? You might want to seriously consider calling DEC to find out for sure before you walk into the woods with a gun and bow at the same time.

[screamon demon]

I would not want to try and explain myself to the CO

However, the only defined firearm season is late ML. What is referred to as "shotgun, gun, firearm, etc" season is actually just the "regular season" where archery equipment is a legal implement to hunt with.

[heatmizzer]

I am sticking only with my bow. passed on a fat little 4 pt. at 10 yards and several doe. But I think fasteddie is right I think you could have both. question? could you have a black powder and a shot gun? kinda the same deal I think yes. dont know why you would but just a thought.

[fasteddie]

I had called the DEC about using decoys several years ago . I told the DEC officer that I didn't see anything in the Regs book saying it was legal to use decoys . He got pissy and snapped back , "if it doesn't say it's illegal in the Regulations , then it is legal" ! Soooooo , in light of that , I believe it would be legal to have both bow and gun during gun season .

It's kind of a moot point as I wouldn't want to draw a bow in 20 degree weather especially being dressed for the cold weather in bulky clothes .

[screamon demon]

That was my point - it's not gun season. It is regular season and if you are afield with a bow you are bow hunting. Using that logic it would then be illegal to also carry a gun. I think it's stupid myself but I guess it clears up any confusion during the special archery season if someone decides to turkey hunt and deer hunt on the same day.

I once asked the DEC why i could not use two hooks while steelhead fishing in the winter time if they were under a certain size. My example was a couple of egg or nymph patterns size 12 or smaller. His response was that it removes doubt and confusion by just making the law a single hook 10/15 - 3/31 perhaps the same logic is used in this case.