2014 Harvest Report

[gjs4]

As stated in other threads the means which this data is calculated by mathematical assumption. Harvest numbers and age are speculative of DEC math. What about herd size/population data? I feel like the deer threads on here are like fantasy sports where people cherry pick their fav numbers and then arrange them to say my point beat yours. At least in sports there is actual measured data so maybe that was a bad example.

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[phade]

When the DEC had the gumption to over correct in the early 2000s, i believe they stated their efforts paired with winterkill was a combo that dropped the statewide herd numbers significantly. That was when the harvest total was over 300k....were not near that now and theyre spouting similar diatribes...which concerns me that we are heading to another repeat. 180k harvest totals or worse...is not where i want to be.

Edited May 27, 2015 by phade

[Doc]

The real DEC management plan:

 

Keep increasing the permits until the uproar from the hunters exceeds the uproar from the CTF anti-deer interests. Then cut the number of permits until the uproar from the CTF anti-deer interests exceeds the uproar of the hunters and then issue more permits.

 

Yeah, I realize that that is a very cynical view of things, but historically, that does seem to be the way it all turns out. And now the DEC is beginning to panic because they can't placate the anti-deer interests through permits anymore. And so they are going off the deep end with new hair-brained schemes to eliminate deer.

 

And as already mentioned, we are simply passively letting all this stuff become firmly in place, and the other shoe will drop as it has before. The only difference is that it will not simply be permit numbers that will have to change to repair the damage. 

[Curmudgeon]

It is a really tough balancing act. Hunter numbers are dropping. How do you keep hunters happy and recruit new hunters without providing good opportunities? How do you control deer numbers without hunters? How do you please all the interests that want fewer deer?

[phade]

It is a really tough balancing act. Hunter numbers are dropping. How do you keep hunters happy and recruit new hunters without providing good opportunities? How do you control deer numbers without hunters? How do you please all the interests that want fewer deer?

 

How do other states do it with similar problems?

 

The answer:

 

Much better than us. That's how they do it.