Pygmy Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 At 400 yards, not enough to make a big difference in hunting situations.. At ranges over 400 yards, the magnums ( with heavy for caliber bullets) have more of an advantage, but at those ranges you get into more complicated range finding/estimation, etc. Shooting at very long ranges ( over 400 yards) becomes an art in itself, requiring more equiptment and skills than Joe Average hunter is likely to possess. At ranges of 400 yards or less where most of us shoot our game animals, the magnums basically just do the same job as standard calibers, with a lot more expense, recoil, meat damage and muzzle blast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 At 400 yards, not enough to make a big difference in hunting situations.. At ranges over 400 yards, the magnums ( with heavy for caliber bullets) have more of an advantage, but at those ranges you get into more complicated range finding/estimation, etc. Shooting at very long ranges ( over 400 yards) becomes an art in itself, requiring more equiptment and skills than Joe Average hunter is likely to possess. At ranges of 400 yards or less where most of us shoot our game animals, the magnums basically just do the same job as standard calibers, with a lot more expense, recoil, meat damage and muzzle blast. You forgot to factor in how pretty they are, and the quality of which they are made. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 At 400 yards, not enough to make a big difference in hunting situations.. At ranges over 400 yards, the magnums ( with heavy for caliber bullets) have more of an advantage, but at those ranges you get into more complicated range finding/estimation, etc. Shooting at very long ranges ( over 400 yards) becomes an art in itself, requiring more equiptment and skills than Joe Average hunter is likely to possess. At ranges of 400 yards or less where most of us shoot our game animals, the magnums basically just do the same job as standard calibers, with a lot more expense, recoil, meat damage and muzzle blast. STOP. Just STOP........... They won't listen Dan; no way no how. They'll have to find out with age and experience. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I shot a mule deer at 440yds with a 270wbymag. I aimed at top of back and he was dead. With a 30-06, how high would I have had to aim if sighted in exactly the same? Like 3 feet? Lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) I guess if I hunted in rifle counties in NY, I wouldn't use the 7mmwbymag or 270wbymag, is probably buy the 240 or 257wby. My dad uses a 243wby when he goes upstate. Point is, weatherby or bust baby! Same with Leupold. These are just my bias. I understand other people are bias towards other brands. It's like cars, girls, etc. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited February 17, 2016 by Biz-R-OWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 One day I'll attempt to take game at 400+ yards with my 243, $.50 ammo. I'll let ya'll know how that works out. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I guess if I hunted in rifle counties in NY, I wouldn't use the 7mmwbymag or 270wbymag, is probably buy the 240 or 257wby. My dad uses a 243wby when he goes upstate. Point is, weatherby or bust baby! Same with Leupold. These are just my bias. I understand other people are bias towards other brands. It's like cars, girls, etc. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Wait, girls have a brand too? X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Without checking tables Biz, I cannot say for sure, but with EQUAL BULLET WEIGHTS, say 150 grain for the 30-06 and .270 WBY , I'm guessing that the 30-06 would,'t drop more than 5 or 6 inches more, if that..Certainly not 3 feet. This is with the 150 grain 30-06 at 2900-3000 fps and the 150 grain.270 Wby mag at perhaps 3200-3300 fps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 We are talking physics, here, Biz, real world ballistics, not some magical property that happens to come with the WEATHERBY brand name.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) Without checking tables Biz, I cannot say for sure, but with EQUAL BULLET WEIGHTS, say 150 grain for the 30-06 and .270 WBY , I'm guessing that the 30-06 would,'t drop more than 5 or 6 inches more, if that..Certainly not 3 feet. This is with the 150 grain 30-06 at 2900-3000 fps and the 150 grain.270 Wby mag at perhaps 3200-3300 fps.I was joking about the 3 feet, but 6" and maybe I miss then. Tough to judge 6" over the back of a deer. A lot easier to aim still on the body.For NY, you don't need as much gun. A weatherby 243 or 240 or 257 is fine. But it must be a weatherby! Haha Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited February 17, 2016 by Biz-R-OWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 One day I'll attempt to take game at 400+ yards with my 243, $.50 ammo. I'll let ya'll know how that works out. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Weatherby in 243win, I assume? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Wait, girls have a brand too? X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Some people like 5s, some people like 7s, some people like 10s Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Weatherby in 243win, I assume? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Only if I get the Tommy exclusive discount. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) I guess if I hunted in rifle counties in NY, I wouldn't use the 7mmwbymag or 270wbymag, is probably buy the 240 or 257wby. My dad uses a 243wby when he goes upstate. Point is, weatherby or bust baby! Same with Leupold. These are just my bias. I understand other people are bias towards other brands. It's like cars, girls, etc. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Your pops isn't using a 243 Weatherby, he is using a 240 Weatherby Mag I'd assume. Get it right will ya............... http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.240+Weatherby+Magnum.html Edited February 17, 2016 by Lawdwaz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Some people like 5s, some people like 7s, some people like 10s Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I like 34C and up. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Your pops isn't using a 243 Weatherby, he is using a 240 Weatherby Mag I'd assume. Get it right will ya............... http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.240+Weatherby+Magnum.html Weatherby in 243win Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinsdale Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 We are talking physics, here, Biz, real world ballistics, not some magical property that happens to come with the WEATHERBY brand name.. They are magical laser beams of death. Only Weatherby branded rifle I have owned. West German 300WBY with claw mount scope and double set trigger. Brake was removable, but I bought it without a thread protector replacement. Really liked the open sights on this gun, I think they were Recknagels of the time period. Might be the only pic I have of it, shame, damn good rifle that paid for a hunt in trade...... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjs4 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 As long as I had the rest I would not shy from any NY range I've seen for whitetails Changing from the 100s to the 120s elk would be a in trouble out west. 0-400 and you really don't need a rangefinder and it takes wind well. The 300 looks fun- the new 6.5-300 looks like something I need Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 When I was kid and still had baby teeth, I crept too far on my grandfathers weatherby 22-250 (gun in the pic I posted of me as a little kid). After the shot there was blood everywhere. Not knowing what happened and being so young I thought I shot myself or something. The kick knocked a few teeth out. I was gun shy for the next few months. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 As long as I had the rest I would not shy from any NY range I've seen for whitetails Changing from the 100s to the 120s elk would be a in trouble out west. 0-400 and you really don't need a rangefinder and it takes wind well. The 300 looks fun- the new 6.5-300 looks like something I need Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk What caliber bullet (6mm?) and velocity are you talking? What range are you zeroed at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 http://www.weatherby.com/media/weatherby/ballistics.pdf Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 It's all about the weatherby with the swarovski glass. Also have to add in the near mfg scope mount. Just gotta go with the best all around. Plus gotta love the beauty of his mounts albeit they go from 300+ You Can't Beat My Meat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marion Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 W Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ?You Can't Beat My Meat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 ? You Can't Beat My Meat! typoSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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