Punishment for guide baiting waterfowl

[CharlieNY]

The attached article shows what can occur when a guide decides to violate the law and resort to baiting. The measure of a "good hunt" should never depend on making a kill, but unfortunately many hunters demand success from guides, and guides in turn resort to illegal activities to increase the odds. This is a very sad situation. I feel sorry for the family name as I remember many years ago when his father William Saiff hosted a show on PBS here called the "Rod n Reel" in which he took out many disabled and challenged individuals on free fishing trips. His dad even designed electric retrieve downrigger reels for those unfortunate individuals who had lost an arm. I just wish that outdoorsmen would get off of the mindset that they must bag game in order to get their "money's worth" from a guided hunt.

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http://www.syracuse.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2017/07/duck_hunting_guide_pays_5000_fine_will_apologize_for_illegal_actions_in_print.html#incart_river_index

[Dinsdale]

I think this happens with more guides than one would think.

Takes me years to sort through to a short list for a hunt and in that time enough whispers about the same folks always seem to pop up so one can avoid them.

And you are absolutely correct the "  mindset that they must bag game in order to get their "money's worth" from a guided hunt " issue is the biggest problem. I try to emphasize the experience, not the success rate; however I find it ironic those attitudes often produce some damn fine animals too when booked with the right outfitter.

[Lawdwaz]

I've only been on a few "guided hunts" and two of them turned into guided "camping trips". 

Life goes on and I'm richer for the experience............

[Paula]

That's to bad he felt the need to resort to that. 

[TreeGuy]

How does one bait waterfowl ?

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[growalot]

READ the article,it was explained in DETAIL. 

[Paula]

27 minutes ago, TreeGuy said:

How does one bait waterfowl ?

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[TreeGuy]

Jeez grow, you are a real B these days (your words, not mine). I am not a migratory hunter, and I did READ the article. My question wasn't about the what, it was more about the theory. I just find that animals like deer or turkey hang out in certain areas where there's food, so I see the advantage of baiting. I've seen the hunting shows where the feeders go off and the game come running. I was more or less wondering if that actually adds a big advantage ? They see it from the sky ?? They stay in the same pond till the feeds gone ? Either way, obviously not very smart for a guide.

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[CharlieNY]

TreeGuy- here is the federal regulations on baiting waterfowl from the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service. You have seen the hunting shows where baiting is legal in certain states for certain animals, and yes this is an advantage. For example, New York State does not allow baiting for deer hunting, but some states do. I personally would never hunt deer or any other animal over a feeder, as I think is not true hunting and would get no enjoyment out of it, even if it meant bagging a trophy. Here is the federal regulations on baiting waterfowl that apply in all states:

What Is Baiting?

You cannot hunt waterfowl by the aid of baiting or on or over any baited area where you know or reasonably should know that the area is or has been baited.

Baiting is the direct or indirect placing, exposing, depositing, distributing, or scattering of salt, grain, or other feed that could lure or attract waterfowl to, on, or over any areas where hunters are attempting to take them.

A baited area is any area on which salt, grain, or other feed has been placed, exposed, deposited, distributed, or scattered, if that salt, grain, or feed could serve as a lure or attraction for waterfowl.

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