Climate change real or scam Or a little of both?

[wildcat junkie]

9 hours ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

So what does it say when science has concluded that there were periods of higher temps in the recent past with lower CO2 levels? And during a period that didn't have Human carbon footprint?

Perhaps a better question for you is how was that information found without science?

[Rattler]

Wildcat, nobody implied science was a liberal conspiracy.  What is being said is, agenda driven people can cherry pick, manipulate and corrupt science data to push their agenda.  That is what is at the heart of the entire climate change debate.

No scientist thinks the climate isn't changing, but a great many of them are not in agreement with those who believe it's man made, and regulation by government will fix it.

Considering the solutions presented by climate hysterics could very well destroy the economy in America, it's no wonder people are asking for more peer reviewed scientific proof.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Perhaps a better question for you is how was that information found without science?

Oh they used science. Just didn’t get results that fit into you preconceived narrative

[wildcat junkie]

2 hours ago, Rattler said:

Wildcat, nobody implied science was a liberal conspiracy.  What is being said is, agenda driven people can cherry pick, manipulate and corrupt science data to push their agenda.  That is what is at the heart of the entire climate change debate.

No scientist thinks the climate isn't changing, but a great many of them are not in agreement with those who believe it's man made, and regulation by government will fix it.

Considering the solutions presented by climate hysterics could very well destroy the economy in America, it's no wonder people are asking for more peer reviewed scientific proof.

And the climate denying scientists hired by the Koch brothers and other fossil fuel industry interests don't cherry pick, manipulate and corrupt data to push their agenda?

Edited August 17, 2018 by wildcat junkie

[Rattler]

I don't believe any scientist denies there is a climate. 

There are people on the other side that are guilty of manipulating data. 

However the majority of scientists simply state the climate is changing and there is no scientific conclusion as to why it is changing.  There is certainly no scientific evidence to support the proposed government intervention that claims to be the solution.  But there is a great deal of economic evidence to support the damage that will occur if the government "solutions" are implemented.

[Hunter007]

9 hours ago, Rattler said:

I don't believe any scientist denies there is a climate. 

There are people on the other side that are guilty of manipulating data. 

However the majority of scientists simply state the climate is changing and there is no scientific conclusion as to why it is changing.  There is certainly no scientific evidence to support the proposed government intervention that claims to be the solution.  But there is a great deal of economic evidence to support the damage that will occur if the government "solutions" are implemented.

Exactly  since when do all the country's in the world do what USA  says .  Even if it is man made there is no way you are going to get all of those countries to agree to stop industrialization  it is  not going to happen.  

[Hunter007]

9 hours ago, wildcat junkie said:

And the climate denying scientists hired by the Koch brothers and other fossil fuel industry interests don't cherry pick, manipulate and corrupt data to push their agenda?

That also is a good point .

But  think about it this way ,there  is one thing we know for sure the climate has always changed over time .

So why should we worry if man is  helping to chang  it  this time around ? When we know from the past it happens anyway ?  We know from the past  that every  12,000  years. There is a ice age  and NY state was under miles of ice .Man made global warming may be holding that off temporarily which could be a good thing . 

No one can predict the future. 

So why worry about it ,

And let nature do its  thing .

They want to help the planit good me to so let them  spend some money to protect more land from deforestation and development.  

 

Edited August 17, 2018 by Storm914

[Hunter007]

 

The explains   why you should be at least a little skeptical about  man made climate change.