The Fracking Ban Proved Stupid Again

[Rattler]

It's all about making fossil fuels more expensive so green energy seems competitive.

https://patriotpost.us/opinion/65483-the-case-against-fracking-is-based-on-ideology-not-science?fbclid=IwAR3RnpdF0QpgE7HisMmFB1sCqFpWER0xPjmCPAJbM8fUqDwh1IZij0a3Uto

[ATbuckhunter]

The problem with fracking is you never know whats going to happen when you fracture the bedrock. It could go perfectly well and you have access to the oil and natural gas, but it could also end up somewhere compleely different. That could possibly contaminate the drinking supply for hundreds or even thousands of people. Not worth the risk in my opinion 

[Rattler]

Risk vs rewards.  "Could possibly" has never occurred to date.  The earth "could possibly" be destroyed by the sun blowing up tomorrow.  We are ignoring massive economic benefits because of paranoia.  Even if water was contaminated, the gas companies are more then willing to provide clean water for free to anyone who suffers a contamination, probably because they are that certain it's not going to happen.  They even gave free bottled spring water to people who had contaminated wells prior to the gas companies ever starting to work.

From the article:

It’s hard to make sense of such blind hostility to the technology that has done more than any other to expand the supply of clean, affordable energy. The (current leftist) candidates’ rejectionism clearly isn’t grounded in science. Many fracking foes raise alarms about groundwater contamination. But when the Obama-era Environmental Protection Agency exhaustively studied that issue, it reported that it could “not find evidence” that fracking was responsible for “systemic impacts on drinking water resources.” Lisa Jackson, who headed the EPA during Obama’s first term, told a congressional hearing in 2011 that she was “not aware of any proven case where the fracking process itself has affected water.”

Compare that to the overall benefit to the entire planet:

"Because natural gas releases only half as much carbon dioxide as coal, the sweeping shift to gas-fueled plants has led to a dramatic reduction in America’s greenhouse gas emissions. So dramatic, in fact, that no other nation matches it, as President Obama observed in his 2014 State of the Union address: “Over the past eight years, the United States has reduced our total carbon pollution more than any other nation on Earth.”

For anyone who worries about climate change and is intent on carbon reduction, all this should be cause for rejoicing. Fracking, which has made it possible, should be extolled as a boon to environmental progress."

It should be carefully supervised and regulated, not banned outright. 

Isn't that benefit worth the minimal risk?

[G-Man]

Ban everything its harmful to the environment, no one suggests stop having kids..humans are worse thing for environment period.

[Rattler]

They are suggesting people stop having kids.  Once again, it's a risk vs benefit option.

Edited September 17, 2019 by Rattler

[left field]

Not sure that "if we contaminate your groundwater we're more than happy to provide you with Perrier" is a strong selling point.

[Rattler]

No, but apparently claiming they will contaminate ground water, when it has never happened, is a strong selling point for people who support the ban.

[Rattler]

Jeff Jacoby: "By unleashing vast quantities of clean-burning natural gas, fracking dramatically changed the economics of electricity production. As natural gas grew more and more affordable, fewer and fewer power plants continued to burn coal. Indeed, more than half of all US coal-fired plants have closed over the past 10 years. According to the Energy Information Administration, 35 percent of America's electricity in 2018 came from natural gas; just 27 percent was from coal. No one would have thought those percentages were possible in 2000, when half of the nation's electricity was generated by coal-fired plants and less than one-sixth came from natural gas. Because natural gas releases only half as much carbon dioxide as coal, the sweeping shift to gas-fueled plants has led to a dramatic reduction in America's greenhouse gas emissions. ... For anyone who worries about climate change and is intent on carbon reduction, all this should be cause for rejoicing. Fracking, which has made it possible, should be extolled as a boon to environmental progress."

[left field]

@Rattler Did you see the front page of the NYT’s business section today? Big article on the economic boom from fracking. 

[Rattler]

I'd have to ask my parrot if he read it.

Was it written by the same folks who wrote the libelous hit piece on Kavanaugh?

 

Edited September 19, 2019 by Rattler

[Hunter007]

The whole thing is a joke if co2 was such a threat it would BE cheaper and easier To just make carbon capture machines to suck  the CO2 out of the air but then al gore would  be out of a job now wouldn't he .

Edited September 19, 2019 by Hunter007

[left field]

3 hours ago, Rattler said:

I'd have to ask my parrot if he read it.

Was it written by the same folks who wrote the libelous hit piece on Kavanaugh?

You have a parrot that can read? That’s cool. I had a parrot that sang, “I Gotta be Me.”

I just skimmed it but I think you’ll like the article. 

[Rattler]

I assume the parrot can read, because he looks at the NYT's articles in the bottom of the cage then takes a dump on them.  Can you post a link for it.  I don't read the NYT's.

 

Edited September 20, 2019 by Rattler

[left field]

You buy the NYT just for your parrot cage? You’re a loving parrot pappy. 

Can’t find the link so it may not be up yet. 

[Rattler]

I don't buy the NYT's, or any other paper.  My neighbor gives it to me for the cage after his wife reads it, to get it out of his house.

 

[left field]

You really have a parrot? I had my finger cut open badly by an African Grey in Sweden. Hate that sonofabitch. 

 

[Rattler]

Unbrainwashing the climate change zombies.

The Rush To Renewable Energy Defies Science, Economics, And Common Sense

https://issuesinsights.com/2019/09/22/resist-being-brainwashed-on-climate-change/

Edited September 29, 2019 by Rattler

[Hunter007]

3 hours ago, Rattler said:

Unbrainwashing the climate change zombies.

The Rush To Renewable Energy Defies Science, Economics, And Common Sense

https://issuesinsights.com/2019/09/22/resist-being-brainwashed-on-climate-change/

The left hijacked environmental issues to promote there aganda. 

Let's take climate change for example,  If true why not support things like carbon capture technology  more . Because then they  wouldn't have  the power to  force people to change what they  eat and drive  it's all about control  . That is why you never here them talk about it ..

 

 

Edited September 29, 2019 by Hunter007