trail camera in glen spey ny

[hunterjohn]

was talking to a fellow hunter and he told me his friend had trail camera pictures of a mountian lion on ogden rd glen spey... its funny how when you ask dec they dont deny or confirm the presents of the eastern mountian lion.... over the last couple years i have heard from more people seeing "big cats" all around the southern tier of new york

[SteveNY]

http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/44564.html

So where are the pictures? I would love to see them.

I found a deer carcass 20 feet up in a tree about 17 years ago in the Catskills.

[SteveB]

Please post the pics - no one ever has in spite of how many claim to have them.

[Moosemaple]

I have had people tell me about mountain lions in the southern tier, but no proof. Can you post the pictures?

[hunterjohn]

cant i dont know the guy but he was pretty convincing with the discription and came to me just out of the blue with excitement " DID YOU HEAR"!!! ill try to find more out..... they said the guy called dec and told them they have pictures

[hunterjohn]

that link must have been added recently because a while ago i was on thier website and there was only the fact sheet....

regaurdless of what the dec tells us there are to many people seeing these "Big CATS" in all differnt areas.... maybe they should take the extra money from the license hike over the past years and take a better look in to it....

[SteveB]

They have - and same as the internet, there is never any real physical proof.

One did pass thru and got killed in Ct., but with 100's of reported sightings, not once has anybody come forth with any backup at all. Not once.

[WNYBuckHunter]

Steve, dont forget that anytime anyone has had "proof" it has been proven to be something other than a ML. Ive seen pics of dogs, house cats, bears and bobcats trying to be presented as proof of a ML. With the thousands of trail cams out in the woods every day of the year, all through the state, you would have to think that pics of them wouldnt be tough to get if they were actually here. You can find lots of trailcam pics and other evidence of them out west, where they actually live. The only time I have seen evidence was someone had pictures of tracks made by the one that passed through and was killed in CT, but that wasnt brought forward until after the cat was hit by a car. I would absolutely love to see actual proof of a ML in NY that can be verified.

[tughillhunter]

these pics were sent to me via mobile last hunting season. supposedly about 4 miles from my hunting grounds.(ellisburg area)

[SteveNY]

Hypothetically, if you saw a lion in the woods and shot it, what would happen?

[HectorBuckBuster]

Its still hard to believe one ML roamed all the way from South Dakota over 1500 miles to CT.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/07/mountain-lion-killed-in-conn-had-walked-from-south-dakota/1

[tughillhunter]

Hypothetically, if you saw a lion in the woods and shot it, what would happen?

thats an awesome question.... what would happen?

[loworange88]

thats an awesome question.... what would happen?

Technically they arent here...so technically there is no season for them...Sort of falls in that Gray area. I'm sure no matter what the circumstances, the hunter would be in the wrong for doing so, unless self defense, or if said cat was attacking livestock.

[SteveNY]

thats an awesome question.... what would happen?

I did a little reading here http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/44564.html

I think the first line sums it all up:

"The Eastern cougar, or mountain lion, is listed as an endangered species in New York."

They would probably hang you if you shot one.

[BizCT]

If I ever see one in NY I will shoot it and take millions of pics showing it was in NY, etc. Then I would get it mounted and cancel my plans to go out west to get one. I dont believe there are any here except for one released from captivity.

[WNYBuckHunter]

these pics were sent to me via mobile last hunting season. supposedly about 4 miles from my hunting grounds.(ellisburg area)

Look about half way down the page, that pic was taken on a porch in Colorado

http://jonbryan.com/...ag/mountainlion

You can do a Google image search for "mountain lion on porch" and its the 5th or 6th result.

[tughillhunter]

damn liars. i hate it when people do that. it said in the caption on my phone torrey hill rd ellisburg. i new it was to cool to be true. thanks for clearin that up for me

[WNYBuckHunter]

No problem. Gotta love the rumor mil.

[Paulie]

I think if I saw a lion in NY while hunting I would shoot it and call all the news stations just to prove that they are here. Then obviously deal with the consequences....which shouldn't be that bad, maybe only a fine of a few hundred bucks.

[hunterjohn]

if you were to shoot an endangered speices you would be in trouble but hey i would pull the trigger if i seen one then drop it of at an intersection and call the police and tell them that i seen it the intersection..... wouldnt tell them i put it there though

[SteveNY]

May want to think twice before killing a cougar.

"The penalties for these violations can be a maximum fine of up to $50,000 or imprisonment for one year, or both, and civil penalties of up to $25,000 per violation, may be assessed."

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endangered_Species_Act

[tughillhunter]

only way i would shoot one is if it was going to harm me, or my family. ill take a fine for that, or jail time.

[WNYBuckHunter]

Actually, the "Eastern Cougar" was determined to be extinct, thus de-listing it from the endangered species status.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Cougar

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/03/science/earth/03cougar.html

[SteveNY]

Actually, the "Eastern Cougar" was determined to be extinct, thus de-listing it from the endangered species status.

http://en.wikipedia..../Eastern_Cougar

http://www.nytimes.c...h/03cougar.html

Not in NY state, according to this page:

"The Eastern cougar, or mountain lion, is listed as an endangered species in New York."

http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/6974.html

Then you have this page somewhat contradicting it:

http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/6974.html

[BizCT]

Id gash my arm with the claw after I killed it.