#11 caps don't always fire

[2012_taco]

I am trying to get a turkey with my White 12 ga blackpowder shotgun. But as I was sighting it in I was having a problem with the gun firing on the first try. I could re cock it and it would fire on the 2nd try same cap.  I did notice that the caps go on the nipple hard. Am I not seating the caps properly or is there something I'm missing or doing wrong? It's been a long time since I had a gun that uses #11 caps so these caps are old but that shouldn't make them hard to place on the nipple I don't think? It's frustrating as I don't want to blow a chance at a turkey with a miss fire only to have it fire with a second try. I know the turkeys won't wait for me to cock the gun and try again! Lol

Ant ideas or suggestions? Thanks

[sbuff]

Another white user very nice 

What powder are you using, to me its one of two things   possibly a stronger spring might be needed or it could be that the nipple is too fat. The solution is to slim down the nipple with a sharp file or replace the entire nipple-breechplug with a new one, same as used on all White rifles. 

You could email or call Doc, I have his number if you need it PM me . I've called him plenty of times 

Edited May 13, 2021 by sbuff

[Nomad]

I had the same thing happen with my ML, first shot nothing second it would fire . Turns out the store sold me #10 caps .

[2012_taco]

1 hour ago, sbuff said:

Another white user very nice 

What powder are you using, to me its one of two things   possibly a stronger spring might be needed or it could be that the nipple is too fat. The solution is to slim down the nipple with a sharp file or replace the entire nipple-breechplug with a new one, same as used on all White rifles. 

You could email or call Doc, I have his number if you need it PM me . I've called him plenty of times 

I Googled it and I can try different caps, cci might fit better. Or file the  nipple to make them fit better.  I think I can do the filing? We'll see!  Thanks 

[G-Man]

Cci or DMZ caps are slightly larger or simply sand down nipple diameter to fit cci.. 

[sbuff]

I thought I was the only white muzzleloader fan in this state !!! Love my thunderbolt and S91-11... 

[Billyb6]

Years ago I had that experience with my hawken repro- went to cci caps, which as stated earlier seem to be a little bigger and never had the problem again.  Also as previously suggested a lttile filing should also easily resolve the problem

[sbuff]

Doc has a nice tominator for sale if anyone's looking for a good one 

http://whitemuzzleloading.com/listing.php?id=52

[2012_taco]

Yesterday I took a file to the nipple and the caps now slide on much easier, not too easy that they will slip off but, I think this will do the trick. we'll see, I probably won't get a chance to try it out until this Saturday. Wish me luck! And thanks for the help, as always

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Edited May 14, 2021 by 2012_taco
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