Doc

I guess peope will be people and they doi tend to be gullible. That is what advertising is all about, and I guess no one can dispute that it works. The TV hunter heroes and their producers simply use that gullible nature and make perceptions even worse by biasing the notion of what bowhunting is all about. And I suppose foir people that only gun hunt or don't hunt at all, that gullible nature may really be simple ignorance. I think there is probably enough blame to go around when it comes to depicting bowhunting as something it's not and then accepting it all as gospel.

By the way, anybody who thinks these wackos are not fiancially well supported and organized might just want to take a look at that camera (which the now claims to have two) and that crazy-looking helicopter thingy. I'll admit that this guy is a bit out there, but they do have some well-healed followers and apparently the ability to sell their nonsense to the public via as much cash as needed. This actually was a good add to the thread in that it illustrates that these technological spy-gizmos are available to a lot more than just government agencies. So anybody who has cash and a desire to use harrassment against whatever cause or person their twist mind deems worthwhile, are apparently free and legally within their rights to do so. How long before some disgruntled neighbor decides to fly his drone surveillance gadget over and around your house .... lol. Technology ..... a wonderful thing, but maybe completely out of control.

That makes sense.

I've been trying to think what the proper response should be when we think we have found something that we think is inappropriate or in this case illegal. My sense is that vietvet50 probably was unaware that the setup is illegal. Not too many people knowingly document their illegal activities through pictures on a public forum.....lol. Probably the best way to handle that would be via a private message informing of the illegality along with an offer to take the picture down. That avoids inadvertant embarrassment and perhaps the loss of a member or the perception that we are just waiting to pounce on anybody who makes a mistake (which in turn loses even more participating members). At this point, it is probably best to just let the issue quietly fade off into oblivion.

Great for making hockey sticks and boomerangs. Really, I look at some of the lumber they sell and wonder how they have the gall to charge the prices they do. A lot of it is suitable only for firewood. Every year the quality gets worse, to the point where you often cannot find the quality of lumber that you need even if you are willing to spend the whole day sorting. It's pretty frustrating.

I'm going to do it. Sounds like fun!

Is an aoudad a goat or a sheep?

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Elevated "shooting houses"? "Trophy fees on top of those exorbitant prices? Feeders? I guess I'll pass on this "super package" ... lol.

So how does that work? If the aoudad can get in, why can't the hogs get in?

Really? .... I thought I was the only one that worried about running over a honey bee with the mower..... lol.

Right-on with that thought about the TV programs. We sure do take a beating with the way bowhunting is portrayed on these shows. Between those hunter-heroes on TV and the over-stated advertisements for archery equipment, it's a wonder that we even have a bow season. That definitely is where these people get those wacked out attitudes.

That's a good question that I would also like to see answered. I started some seeds from an apple, and they actually germinated and got up to about 2" tall and looked very strong and healthy. And then they just up and croaked for no obvious reason that I could figure out. I'm going to try again, but it would be nice if anybody has any tips on a procedure that somebody has actually worked out through experience or some source of knowledge.

One of the things I have noticed is that even on some rather prime feeding areas, deer seem to be "in-motion" feeders. What I mean by that is that they seem to be always on their way to somewhere and even in the dead of winter, don't stay in a field very long. It's kind of like they do an awful lot of walking while feeding and before you know it ..... poof! ..... they are gone and on their way to somewhere else. Some of that may have to do with their multiple stomach digestive system, I don't know. So anyway, that is what kind of brought that thought of "over-kill" to mind (that and some pictures of huge food plots that I have seen on the net .... lol). The actual area that a deer will actually use would seem to be quite small, to the point where 5 or 10 acres might have an awful lot of it that a deer may never actually use. I would think that many smaller plots might be more efficiently used by deer with their wandering habits. But then I am only guessing.

Unfortunately, she really doesn't care whether you shop there or not. Probably should have had a conversation with the store manager, or somebody that sets store policy. Nothing against the clerks at the counter but their ability to challenge store policy on their own is pretty limited, if you can even find one that even cares. They kind of do as they are told.

Actually, I don't believe his "ended rut" comment is exactly accurate. The truth is that the crazy disruption of gun season itself kind of drives it all nocturnal so that it seems like it is all over. At least that has been my experience. I have seen a lot of rut activity in the first part of opening day of gun season. But anyway, people will believe what ever makes them comfortable with their own lack of success.

Years ago, I remember a material that we used on the chicken coop windows. It had a 1/4" x 1/4" grid of thin wire and was covered in a thin layer of some pretty tough clear plastic. I've never seen it for sale since, but I would think that stuff would be perfect for young seedlings. Nothing will get through that. And then a cage of welded wire over that would keep the deer from coming down from the top.

When it comes to food plots, how big is too big? I mean, food plots are not cheap, and I have seen some that look more like a commercial farm field with what looks to me to be huge acreage for the purpose. I'm thinking that once you put in more acreage than the herd size needs, any excess is a pure waste of money. So, how do you judge when you are going overboard and simply wasting money? Is there some kind of rule of thumb or something? Any thoughts?

That's fascinating stuff.

Lol ..... It looks like a barnyard. How the heck many do they have there?

It's all about attitude .... lol.

It's not the first time I've heard such stories. Maybe not all of them quite so much "in-your-face", but that same underlying theme. A lot of people think we bowhunters are really getting away with something and that it should be stopped. I have heard and read all the nonsense about how bowhunters are just "buck hunters" and how we thin out all the best bucks before they ever get a chance at them. Silly stuff, but there are more people out there that actually believe all that than you might imagine.

I thought the big thing at Onieda Lake was the walleyes. Aren't they the featured species there anymore?

When any government agency has law abiding citizens under random surveilance, it certainly does magnify the control capabilities to a point where you have to wonder just what kinds of mischief they could use such spying activities for. This sort of thing just grows and grows to the point where the sanctity of privacy totally dissolves. Technology has a way of putting us under lock and key without even using bars. We used to think that the right to bear arms related to an ultimate control of the citizens over a run-away government. Well given the technology of the day, that argument is really merely a bunch of wishful thinking. But don't tell the anti-gun folks ..... lol.

Now that is some spooky stuff! The bees create a new queen by giving her some magic potion? See, only Mother Nature could come up with stuff like that. So if a guy were to come across a swarm, just how do you go about taking possession of them? I'd be at a total loss as to how to go about it.